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Old 04-23-2018, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Zenofzin
Don’t think anybody asked YOU to give up profit sharing your check should have been deposited.... he’s acting like a leader, symbolic just like when he calls employees on the phone to congratulate them for doing well and when he comes in on holidays like Thanksgiving and serves employees meals. I’m just saying nice to see someone who cares about where our company is headed, leads by example and is making an effort. Much more then a lot actions and opinions I see on here from pilots who want to be paid like managers but act like children.

Yep, I’ll look forward to reading your inspirational story. You can act Ike a manager AND a pilot. We’re all proud of you, I’m sure.
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I'd prefer a CEO that chums around with front line employees while chatting about our record profits, and fat profit sharing they led the company to, while leaving out the the social justice and values signaling...like Gordon Bethune or Larry Kellner. (Kellner btw was a great philanthropist...quietly so). And worked behind the scenes for social causes very effectively.
Only thing Gordon did was convince you the **** sandwich you were eating was tasty. That must have been some strong Koolaid he poured lol.
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This thread deteriorated quickly.
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SHARED SACRIFICE. Hahahahaha.
Considering our financial performance....more like Mea culpa.
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by UALinIAH
Only thing Gordon did was convince you the **** sandwich you were eating was tasty. That must have been some strong Koolaid he poured lol.
True statement. Both Larry and Gordon were nice guys but the pilots were played. Thread on another forum by a few reminiscing about the good ole days made me kinda sick as I recalled having no health insurance for 6 months of employment and being paid 50% when deadheading across the Atlantic(although this was “snapped up to 100% over time as part of a concessionary contract). I’m not sure what, about the late 1990’s-mid 2000’s at CAL was better than today. It is similar to observing those wanting to “make America great again” without really stating just what period they are referring to or what “better” entails. It is all subjective.

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Old 04-23-2018, 08:31 PM
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Considering our financial performance....more like Mea culpa.
Yeah no kidding, if all the name calling is over.....anyone know if the board had and say in the giveback?
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:36 PM
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Lots of talk here and on the line about how we aren’t hiring like Delta, not as profitable as Delta, and so on. Is Delta and United a true apples to apples comparison? What is their scope like, their ability to enter JV deals, etc.? If they have weaker scope and can farm more out to foreign partners allowing them higher profits, then how bad do we want to be like them? Haven’t looked very far into the comparison. Hopefully someone here has done he work for me.
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Old 04-23-2018, 08:45 PM
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Yeah no kidding, if all the name calling is over.....anyone know if the board had and say in the giveback?
It's unlikely the board would say much publicly, however the Baord Chairman is out, after just two years.
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9 million ... Would tilton, smisek, or kellner not trample over their grandmothers for half of that? This guy is a good egg. He might not be perfect but he is trying to do right here. We have a long way to go.
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Originally Posted by BMEP100
It's unlikely the board would say much publicly, however the Baord Chairman is out, after just two years.
Good. It's the individual that PAR/Altimeter Capital had installed during the proxy fight a few years ago.

Awax maybe you think the JAL CEO only taking a $1 salary while they dug themselves out was idiotic, or that Trump not pulling a gov't salary is BS? Personally, I appreciate OM's gesture.
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