Recommendation System
04-04-2018, 08:36 AM
#11
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Position: Boeing voice activated systems and ACARS commander
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I think in our system an LoR actually hurts the candidate. Heard of more than 8 well respected (and I mean highly respected) Captains turning in LoR's for people. Net effect..... They got interviewed and hired elsewhere while waiting in "line" for UAL call. We are either top-heavy loaded with super highly qualified candidates that outshine those that we are recommending....or.....HR has "HR'd the system."
Maybe pilots should be in charge of hiring pilots....Just a thought..... Lawyers hire Lawyers. Chefs hire cooks, Engineers hire engineers.....it seems logical..no?
Maybe pilots should be in charge of hiring pilots....Just a thought..... Lawyers hire Lawyers. Chefs hire cooks, Engineers hire engineers.....it seems logical..no?
04-04-2018, 11:26 AM
#12
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
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Spoke to two consultants off the record. They were initially baffled by what's going on, but now have come to the conclusion that the hiring matrix at UAL is intentional indeed.
What pilots are looking for and what pilots care about is not what HR cares about. They are in control. Pilots have no say, no input, and without those have no control.
When a LOR gets submitted, an applicant shouldn't get crickets and then go to DAL. That person should get a red carpet treatment and go into a different (more important) stack than those completely off the street.
If ALPA's true goal is to take back the profession, then I recommend we get ALPA involved in our hiring process. ALPA members, and ALPA leaders need to find a way to pry open the door to this room of silliness.
04-04-2018, 11:42 AM
#13
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Joined APC: Nov 2010
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That’s not what I was referring to. I’ve written many airlineapps recs. I was assuming he wanted info on a separate internal recommendation system.
04-04-2018, 12:32 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Sleeping in the black swan’s nest.
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Well I did get one guy a CP meet and greet and also sponsored him in the friends and family thing. He’s still at Mesa three years later. He’s an Army vet, NCO with the 160th SOAR, Airborne ETC. Maybe he needs to wear a rainbow flag pin on his uniform?
04-04-2018, 02:36 PM
#16
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
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Just had a base CP tell me very difficult for even him to recommend someone. Our process is totally HR dependent. I was simply inquiring, and he shared with me the insanity of our process. Low time Gay, minority, or female seem to get extra HR points at the new UAL. Just tell 'em your gay. Automatic interview, you'll be in the next class.
04-04-2018, 02:51 PM
#17
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The GPA can hook you up. They all seem to know each other and look out for each other. The rainbow coalition UAL style.... I think the re-design of our uniform being held up by that. Going to have some cool new wings with a unicorn in rainbow colors. It's gonna be great.
04-04-2018, 02:53 PM
#18
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I did the family gathering at TK a few years ago. USAF academy grad, 6 combat tours, 15 air medals, lots of good time. No call, no nothing. I forgot to mention to wear a rainbow pin. Good idea.
04-04-2018, 03:05 PM
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