Holy Increasing Utilization Batman!
03-25-2018, 03:40 PM
#41
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: guppy CA
Posts: 5,171
Sorry, no, opting for full contract negotiations instead of contract extension wouldn’t have fixed it. Line pilots wanted pay and work rule improvements but have almost always placed a much heavier weight on pay than work rules.
It’s not so much that the company cares whether we take pay or work rules; it’s that pilots are by and large prostitutes who value money above all.
The company is willing to give us a package worth $X. Pilots decide the composition of that package and the company tells us what they’re willing to offer based on the value they attach to our demands.
It’s not so much that the company cares whether we take pay or work rules; it’s that pilots are by and large prostitutes who value money above all.
The company is willing to give us a package worth $X. Pilots decide the composition of that package and the company tells us what they’re willing to offer based on the value they attach to our demands.
03-26-2018, 04:45 AM
#42
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: Boeing voice activated systems and ACARS commander
Posts: 442
Sorry, no, opting for full contract negotiations instead of contract extension wouldn’t have fixed it. Line pilots wanted pay and work rule improvements but have almost always placed a much heavier weight on pay than work rules.
It’s not so much that the company cares whether we take pay or work rules; it’s that pilots are by and large prostitutes who value money above all.
The company is willing to give us a package worth $X. Pilots decide the composition of that package and the company tells us what they’re willing to offer based on the value they attach to our demands.
It’s not so much that the company cares whether we take pay or work rules; it’s that pilots are by and large prostitutes who value money above all.
The company is willing to give us a package worth $X. Pilots decide the composition of that package and the company tells us what they’re willing to offer based on the value they attach to our demands.
The extension allowed them to get back closer to their desired lifestyles.
Last edited by PowderFinger; 03-26-2018 at 04:46 AM. Reason: Caint spel
03-29-2018, 04:26 AM
#46
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Position: Boeing voice activated systems and ACARS commander
Posts: 442
03-29-2018, 05:08 AM
#47
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Joined APC: Jan 2012
Position: B737
Posts: 141
Only flew with one guy that was over 60 in 2008 just before the furlough. The guy couldn't stop going on and on about how great it was he would get 5 more years at top of scale in the left seat. I finally had to ask the guy if he knew that 1400 furloughs were about to happen, many of which were more about age 65 rather than the aircraft parking. Classic quote, "you're young, you can make it up later. I've got a boat to payoff and a retirement to fund." To which I asked, how does someone make up five years of zero? Total clueless @~hole
03-29-2018, 06:09 AM
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Position: Boeing voice activated systems and ACARS commander
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Only flew with one guy that was over 60 in 2008 just before the furlough. The guy couldn't stop going on and on about how great it was he would get 5 more years at top of scale in the left seat. I finally had to ask the guy if he knew that 1400 furloughs were about to happen, many of which were more about age 65 rather than the aircraft parking. Classic quote, "you're young, you can make it up later. I've got a boat to payoff and a retirement to fund." To which I asked, how does someone make up five years of zero? Total clueless @~hole
03-29-2018, 06:13 AM
#49
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Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 705
Sorry, no, opting for full contract negotiations instead of contract extension wouldn’t have fixed it. Line pilots wanted pay and work rule improvements but have almost always placed a much heavier weight on pay than work rules.
It’s not so much that the company cares whether we take pay or work rules; it’s that pilots are by and large prostitutes who value money above all.
The company is willing to give us a package worth $X. Pilots decide the composition of that package and the company tells us what they’re willing to offer based on the value they attach to our demands.
It’s not so much that the company cares whether we take pay or work rules; it’s that pilots are by and large prostitutes who value money above all.
The company is willing to give us a package worth $X. Pilots decide the composition of that package and the company tells us what they’re willing to offer based on the value they attach to our demands.
The valuation of contractual items is a two way street.
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