Now United looking at CSeries & E2
#31
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Joined APC: Sep 2017
Position: Boeing voice activated systems and ACARS commander
Posts: 442
#33
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Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 315
This. We'll outsource to ourselves. We keep the flying, but at what cost? The 700's would have been way better.
#34
Suuuuuuuuure we will.
What imbecile negotiated these ridiculously low rates in the first place?
#35
By all means lets start replacing 737/A320 flying with these wonderful new CS-100 Series aircraft. I'm sure the $67.15 difference in pay per hour won't sting too much.
And....
Don't worry STB, the we'll get 'em next time crowd will get on here and tell you how much better it will be keeping them in house. But don't worry, with our next contract we'll assuredly be flying them at 737/A320 rates very soon.
Suuuuuuuuure we will.
What imbecile negotiated these ridiculously low rates in the first place?
#36
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 503
1-C-1-g Number of 76-Seat Aircraft
If the Company adds New Small Narrowbody aircraft to the Company Fleet, then on or after January 1, 2016, the number of permitted 76-Seat Aircraft may increase from 153 (as permitted under Section 1-C-1-a-(2)-(c)) up to a total of 223 76-Seat Aircraft, and the number of permitted 76/70-Seat Aircraft may increase from 255 (as permitted under Section 1-C-1-a-(2)-(c)) up to a total of 325 76/70-Seat Aircraft, except that once the number of 76/70-Seat Aircraft exceeds 255, then the number of 70-Seat Aircraft may not be more than 102.
76-Seat Aircraft (above 153 such Aircraft) may be added on a one 76-Seat Aircraft for each one and one quarter New Small Narrowbody Aircraft (1:1.25) ratio (rounded to the closest integer).
In addition, in the event more than 153 76-Seat Aircraft are in United Express Flying, the Company shall remove from United Express Flying a number of 50-Seat Aircraft determined as follows:
If the Company adds New Small Narrowbody aircraft to the Company Fleet, then on or after January 1, 2016, the number of permitted 76-Seat Aircraft may increase from 153 (as permitted under Section 1-C-1-a-(2)-(c)) up to a total of 223 76-Seat Aircraft, and the number of permitted 76/70-Seat Aircraft may increase from 255 (as permitted under Section 1-C-1-a-(2)-(c)) up to a total of 325 76/70-Seat Aircraft, except that once the number of 76/70-Seat Aircraft exceeds 255, then the number of 70-Seat Aircraft may not be more than 102.
76-Seat Aircraft (above 153 such Aircraft) may be added on a one 76-Seat Aircraft for each one and one quarter New Small Narrowbody Aircraft (1:1.25) ratio (rounded to the closest integer).
In addition, in the event more than 153 76-Seat Aircraft are in United Express Flying, the Company shall remove from United Express Flying a number of 50-Seat Aircraft determined as follows:
1. “FSFC” is the number of 50-Seat Aircraft in United Express Flying on the date that the 154th 76-Seat Aircraft enters United Express Flying.
2. Subtract 125 from FSFC.
3. Divide the number resulting from step 2 by seventy (70). This results in a factor “X” rounded to the second decimal place.
4. For each 76-Seat Aircraft added to United Express Flying above 153, remove from United Express Flying a number of 50-Seat Aircraft no less than X, with the resulting number of 50-Seat Aircraft to be removed, rounded to the closest integer.
5. Example 1: If the number of 50-Seat Aircraft in United Express Flying is 334, then FSFC-125 equals 209; when 209 is divided by seventy (70), then X = 2.99 6. Example 2: If the number of 50-Seat Aircraft in United Express Flying is 488, then FSFC-125 equals 363; when 363 is divided by seventy (70), then X = 5.19.
For the phrase “rounded to the closest integer,” in step 4, the values .1 to .4 shall be rounded down to the next lower whole number and the values .5 to .9 shall be rounded up to the next higher whole number.2. Subtract 125 from FSFC.
3. Divide the number resulting from step 2 by seventy (70). This results in a factor “X” rounded to the second decimal place.
4. For each 76-Seat Aircraft added to United Express Flying above 153, remove from United Express Flying a number of 50-Seat Aircraft no less than X, with the resulting number of 50-Seat Aircraft to be removed, rounded to the closest integer.
5. Example 1: If the number of 50-Seat Aircraft in United Express Flying is 334, then FSFC-125 equals 209; when 209 is divided by seventy (70), then X = 2.99 6. Example 2: If the number of 50-Seat Aircraft in United Express Flying is 488, then FSFC-125 equals 363; when 363 is divided by seventy (70), then X = 5.19.
#37
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 737 fo
Posts: 908
We cannot control what aircraft the company decides to fly on a route. Of course we would like to have 777 flying everywhere, heck let's dump the whole fleet and buy all A-380's, that rate is really nice. All we can do is demand that what ever they choose, we do the work.
#38
UCH Pilot
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: 787
Posts: 776
Don't worry STB, the we'll get 'em next time crowd will get on here and tell you how much better it will be keeping them in house. But don't worry, with our next contract we'll assuredly be flying them at 737/A320 rates very soon.
Suuuuuuuuure we will.
What imbecile negotiated these ridiculously low rates in the first place?
Suuuuuuuuure we will.
What imbecile negotiated these ridiculously low rates in the first place?
#39
We cannot control what aircraft the company decides to fly on a route. Of course we would like to have 777 flying everywhere, heck let's dump the whole fleet and buy all A-380's, that rate is really nice. All we can do is demand that what ever they choose, we do the work.
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