Now United looking at CSeries & E2
#101
As far as not getting the 65 -700’s when we could, would getting 65 max 7’s or 319 neo instead be ok? Being that those planes would most likely do a bunch of up and down flying that the rj’s are doing now, I hope they don’t pick the max. I’m on the 737 and would rather that type of flying be done by someone else. Pairings with 4 legs a day are unproductive and hard to commute on both ends.
You want regionals to do the flying because it’s hard to commute?? That’s a level of insanity that is even beyond a double digit WB CA. Itsto many legs? Then switch jets and fly long haul. How easy is it going to be to commute and how many legs are you going to fly when you don’t have a job anymore.
I don’t care if it’s a Cessna 150 with United painted on one side Flying 20 legs a day.....mainline pilots should fly it.
That is how a pilot answers the scope question not with it’s hard to commute and there is to many legs
#102
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The price being too good to be true was just a rumor. We don’t get to see the books and we’ll never know what the actual numbers for any deal are. Boeing could have cut a pretty good deal for changing them to max orders as well.
As far as not getting the 65 -700’s when we could, would getting 65 max 7’s or 319 neo instead be ok? Being that those planes would most likely do a bunch of up and down flying that the rj’s are doing now, I hope they don’t pick the max. I’m on the 737 and would rather that type of flying be done by someone else. Pairings with 4 legs a day are unproductive and hard to commute on both ends.
As far as not getting the 65 -700’s when we could, would getting 65 max 7’s or 319 neo instead be ok? Being that those planes would most likely do a bunch of up and down flying that the rj’s are doing now, I hope they don’t pick the max. I’m on the 737 and would rather that type of flying be done by someone else. Pairings with 4 legs a day are unproductive and hard to commute on both ends.
#103
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Ok......I’ve questioned before whether or not you are actually a United pilot and this paragraph above pretty much sums it up that you’re not.
You want regionals to do the flying because it’s hard to commute?? That’s a level of insanity that is even beyond a double digit WB CA. Itsto many legs? Then switch jets and fly long haul. How easy is it going to be to commute and how many legs are you going to fly when you don’t have a job anymore.
I don’t care if it’s a Cessna 150 with United painted on one side Flying 20 legs a day.....mainline pilots should fly it.
That is how a pilot answers the scope question not with it’s hard to commute and there is to many legs
You want regionals to do the flying because it’s hard to commute?? That’s a level of insanity that is even beyond a double digit WB CA. Itsto many legs? Then switch jets and fly long haul. How easy is it going to be to commute and how many legs are you going to fly when you don’t have a job anymore.
I don’t care if it’s a Cessna 150 with United painted on one side Flying 20 legs a day.....mainline pilots should fly it.
That is how a pilot answers the scope question not with it’s hard to commute and there is to many legs
I don’t want the regionals doing our flying. I really don’t see us flying 76 seat jets any time soon and I don’t see us ever taking back all of the flying. That cat is out of the bag. I do see and really want a bunch of either 100 seat or small max/neo type of planes show up and allow us to take back the vast majority of what the regionals are doing now. I really don’t care what they choose. I’m more interested in a cost effective plane suited to the mission that provides long term profitability than what the current hourly pay is.
The bit about commuting was meant to be sarcastic. I really like my max 2 legs per day, no red eye, commutable trips but I would welcome any make and model that would bring as much flying as we can back in house. When I said that I’d rather have someone else do it I meant mainline pilots on equipment other than the 737. If they did go with a max 7 and I didn’t like my schedule then I could simply bid off.
#104
I would imagine by the time a 100 seater actually showed up such as the E195 etc. we would be on another contract to bring up that Payscale . For those that say we should have gotten the 737-700's at 250 am hour. I am much for flying a 737 than a 100 seater but I can't imagine that won't get address in the next CBA . Question is what will they won't for it. Always a trade off
#105
I would imagine by the time a 100 seater actually showed up such as the E195 etc. we would be on another contract to bring up that Payscale . For those that say we should have gotten the 737-700's at 250 am hour. I am much for flying a 737 than a 100 seater but I can't imagine that won't get address in the next CBA . Question is what will they won't for it. Always a trade off
I get it, managements going to buy whatever aircraft they think will fulfill that particular days supposed long-term goals. I don't think purchasing new CS's at the cost of replacing our higher paying fleets is going to sit well with the rank and file. If, however, we bring the CS-100 rates up to the old -700 and 319 book rates that's a completely different animal altogether.
#107
#109
To answer your question , def not happy if they were on property with that crap payscale . However that was signed prior to my time here .
Hopefully that changes if we have to cross that road.
Hopefully that changes if we have to cross that road.
#110
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Love or hate it, the pay scales are set for now on all fleets and the company is free to do whatever they want within the confines of the various labor contracts. I think that the market and shortage of people entering aviation will only help our cause. Everything is up to the negotiating committee and the company at this point. I’m hoping for an on time or relatively close to that date contract, but I’m willing to wait for a proper contract rather than settle for less. There are definitely things to address in this one, but for what it is, I think it could be a whole lot worse. Being from the CAL side of the merger, I sure don’t want to go back to that. Life now is pretty good, and will hopefully get better.
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