Slop

Mercedes-Benz C-Class?? Hell yeah!!

Viperstick

It’s hit the news.

Fox News teaser a second ago about a new United bonus program that’s causing employees to cry foul.

SilentLurker

Kirby got ousted by AAG board... UAL board needed management/ an exec at the top with aviation experience unlike Munoz and some others Exec VPs. Shareholders and big bank financial analysts got nervous. Kirby is highly experienced & respected in the airlines, by analysts, shareholders, and brought onboard.

AAG employees loath Kirby for many good reasons for many years. He’ll show UAL employees why that was. This is just the beginning. He will make decisions Oscar can would not, and will persuade him. Kirby is a smart guy & knows how much to squeeze labor groups. Since his departure from AAG employee groups are happier at AAG. People really like the view President Robert Isolm in a much brighter light. He’s next to to AAGs CEO in a few short years. While Kirby has a history of fighting labor groups. Nice to hear him admit he was wrong in the past in how he viewed the pilot group during last quarters earnings call. Things could change his views could change, it’s a new market after all. But it’s possible it’s all word play because he needs scope relief to achieve his plans.

I really do like Oscar Munoz. UAL needs him, I pray he lives long and sticks around.

Laker24

I would bet the average British Airways 777 Captain has 20-30 years on type flying to every region of the world. The typical Major US airline pilot spends a decade or two on domestic before graduating to three times a month to somewhere easy like Paris, Sydney, or Narita. Probably safe to say that a similarly senior BA, Cathay, EK CA would have more international experience on newer equipment.

Grumble

Ok for the idiots out there, JV means joint venture.

CousinEddie

Yet there is an A330 at the bottom of the Atlantic. Did experience put it there?

Laker24

Lack of experience and an over reliance on automation put it there. The two pilots at the controls were both low time FOs. That doesn’t change the average international experience levels at an airline like BA vs UAL. It’s not an attack. Just a statement of fact. I’m not saying one group is ‘better’ than the other. Just responding to the poster who thought it was funny that anyone could think a JV pilot might have more experience than a UAL pilot.

iHateAMR

You do realize that all seats pay the same at BA, and the junior seats are the long haul, the senior seats are the domestic/inter Europe flying right?

PilotGR

Dear United colleagues,

Since announcing our planned changes to the quarterly operations incentive program, we have listened carefully to the feedback and concerns you've expressed.

Our intention was to introduce a better, more exciting program, but we misjudged how these changes would be received by many of you.

So, we are pressing the pause button on these changes to review your feedback and consider the right way to move ahead. We will be reaching out to work groups across the company, and the changes we make will better reflect your feedback.

Appreciatively,

Scott

Negative comments have been read and heard...this is good..

Andy

Erm, are you ----ing kidding me? You think that BA, Cathay and EK 777 Capts are more experienced than widebody US Captains? How many years do the junior international Captains have at each of those companies?

Like EK's Ashley Klinger?????? Yes, I'm sure she's fully qualified for her position, but to suggest that she has more international experience than the most junior US widebody Captain is utterly laughable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T-ujzU6vSc
And how about the age/experience of that EK pilot whose botched go around ended up in an EK hull loss? He had a whopping 7K or so hours...

Now let's move on to Cathay's Captains. I found this article: Top British pilot fired for performing 320mph 'fly-by' just 28 feet from the ground - in a jumbo full of VIPs | Daily Mail Online
55 yrs old, 15 yrs flying with Cathay, and was one of their most senior pilots. For a US carrier, that's not enough seniority to get you an international widebody Capt seat.

I don't know BA's WB Capt experience levels so no comment there.

LOL! Are you suggesting that an 'international' flight hour is of less value than a 'domestic' flight hour? I've got a lot of 'international' flight hours ... in the bunk!

And to be clear here, United's JV (joint venture) partners are the rest of the (death)STAR alliance. None of the airlines you chose to name are members of the death*.

Now, here's the original post we were discussing:
More advanced airplanes? United has the 787 which is Boeing's most advanced aircraft. While some may state that Airbus has more advanced aircraft than Boeing, I doubt that it would be a strong argument. Not enough of a difference to be debate worthy.

More experience? Similar experience would be the best that could be said. Many of United's JV partners have less experienced flight deck crews.