Section 6 Opening Letters
#31
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The Company's demands are so far apart from ours on key sections, this CBA will not be done by the Company's targeted timeline. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to keep cashing my paychecks and enjoy the scope choke. I'm in no hurry!
#32
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Fist, please don't say this, it's tantamount to negotiating in public, and telling the company exactly what you would live with.
Second, we don't want that either. The company would love to "live with what we have" for as long as it takes. Every year they stall, is another year without contract improvements, whether a better reserve system, or pay raises.
Now is that mythical next contract when we will fix the other sections. Don't sell your self short, and don't tell the company that either.
I am cautiously optimistic. We have several things the company wants, this means we have leverage. And, I think the company does want labor peace. This is worth negotiating capital to the company. Despite what Kirby is saying about scope--which is a company tactic to negotiate in public-- I think he does want to compete and run an airline. These are the good times.
Second, we don't want that either. The company would love to "live with what we have" for as long as it takes. Every year they stall, is another year without contract improvements, whether a better reserve system, or pay raises.
Now is that mythical next contract when we will fix the other sections. Don't sell your self short, and don't tell the company that either.
I am cautiously optimistic. We have several things the company wants, this means we have leverage. And, I think the company does want labor peace. This is worth negotiating capital to the company. Despite what Kirby is saying about scope--which is a company tactic to negotiate in public-- I think he does want to compete and run an airline. These are the good times.
#33
I am cautiously optimistic. We have several things the company wants, this means we have leverage. And, I think the company does want labor peace. This is worth negotiating capital to the company. Despite what Kirby is saying about scope--which is a company tactic to negotiate in public-- I think he does want to compete and run an airline. These are the good times.
#34
Due to the "me-too" clause , I would happily keep what we have rather than give up any part of scope ... both big and small ... we have tons of heavy aircraft the company would prob love to be codeshared out ... scope effects all types of flying ... and this business abiut owning a foreign carrier .. suspect
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#35
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If you have your balls and have the big picture, than by all means, keep doing a great job. You have my support.
#36
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The company has no leverage. They are negotiating from a disadvantage. That's why they are bringing scope into it. If not on the high ground, go out and find some more ground to fight for. The union simply needs to counter with a new proposal, open up all the sections for improvement......Well see your scope section, and raise you all the sections........... Still not budging on scope.
#37
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#39
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
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I sounds like I may need to review my governing documents. I’m prepared to follow the FOM, WOM, and Flight Manual in exacting detail. Precise, calculated, detail to ensure the safety of our employees and passengers. I will not overlook any detail, no matter how small.
#40
So how do you operate now? What a dumb thing to say.
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