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Old 02-27-2018, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Cliff, disregard, read your post wrong, derp...
Well, your Gallup poll's historical data (link) shows that there's a much bigger percentage of the population that opposes banning handguns - and that percentage has increased over the decades. Good to know; I was expecting the opposite. I need to stop watching MSLSD - total fake news.
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Old 02-27-2018, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ugleeual
Nah... facts don’t mean anything these days... it’s easier to make stuff up and make you prove it’s fake news.
65% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
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Old 02-27-2018, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Well, your Gallup poll's historical data (link) shows that there's a much bigger percentage of the population that opposes banning handguns - and that percentage has increased over the decades. Good to know; I was expecting the opposite. I need to stop watching MSLSD - total fake news.
Like I said, I was reading his post wrong and inserted someting.

"My bad".......

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65% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjvQFtlNQ-M
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Old 02-27-2018, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenntilton
The more than five million law-abiding members of the National Rifle Association have enjoyed discounts and cost-saving programs from many American corporations that have partnered with the NRA to expand member benefits.
Since the tragedy in Parkland, Florida, a number of companies have decided to sever their relationship with the NRA, in an effort to punish our members who are doctors, farmers, law enforcement officers, fire fighters, nurses, shop owners and school teachers that live in every American community. We are men and women who represent every American ethnic group, every one of the world’s religions and every form of political commitment.
The law-abiding members of the NRA had nothing at all to do with the failure of that school’s security preparedness, the failure of America’s mental health system, the failure of the National Instant Check System or the cruel failures of both federal and local law enforcement.
Despite that, some corporations have decided to punish NRA membership in a shameful display of political and civic cowardice. In time, these brands will be replaced by others who recognize that patriotism and determined commitment to Constitutional freedoms are characteristics of a marketplace they very much want to serve.
Let it be absolutely clear. The loss of a discount will neither scare nor distract one single NRA member from our mission to stand and defend the individual freedoms that have always made America the greatest nation in the world.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/nra-blast...004815772.html
Hear, Hear ! !
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Old 02-28-2018, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
I’m sorry you have to cower behind a gun to feel safe
this has some ring of truth to it. Smaller stature people can use a firearm to be safe when they would have no chance of self defense in a physical confrontation. Wasn't the old saying: God made men but Sam Colt made them equal.
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The NRA has positioned themselves at the far right of this conversation with their opposition at the far left. It is hard to argue against age restrictions for semi-auto rifles similar to handguns and background checks for person to person transfers. United alone moves 3 million people a week that dwarfs the 5 million people arguing on the wrong side of common sense. The NRA's inability to take a more reasonable stance is inexcuseable and will lead to a worse errosion of second amendment rights.
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Old 02-28-2018, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
The NRA has positioned themselves at the far right of this conversation with their opposition at the far left....... The NRA's inability to take a more reasonable stance is inexcuseable and will lead to a worse errosion of second amendment rights.
The Weimar Republic had no right to gun ownership. The Nazis who followed were a little looser at first, in gun control, but reasoned that certain unreliable citizens, such as Jews could not own guns.

Too bad for the Holocaust victims, who were left to resist the SS with soup ladles and rolling pins.

But the law was "reasonable" after all, and many German voters agreed.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:12 PM
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Did it really take 19 pages for Goodwin's Law to be fulfilled?

I was expecting it much, much sooner.

BMEP, there was no historical right to gun ownership in Germany in any historical period - Weimar, Imperial, Prussia, the Holy Roman Empire, etc.

Likewise, civilians armed with, well anything, up to and including cannons, were not then, and will not now be, able to stand up to professional soldiers.

It is a historically wrong, and just plain silly argument.
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:26 PM
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C'mon. Alternative facts and silliness are part of the argument. Great catch on Godwins!
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Old 02-28-2018, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by robthree
Did it really take 19 pages for Goodwin's Law to be fulfilled?

I was expecting it much, much sooner.

BMEP, there was no historical right to gun ownership in Germany in any historical period - Weimar, Imperial, Prussia, the Holy Roman Empire, etc.

Likewise, civilians armed with, well anything, up to and including cannons, were not then, and will not now be, able to stand up to professional soldiers.

It is a historically wrong, and just plain silly argument.
Maybe you should pick up a history book and/or visit the poorest country in the world. Hint, it’s called Afghanistan. They’ve defeated every military and empire that has ever tried to conquer them back to Alexander. Someone should’ve told them you’re so smart and the Soviets had them licked.

None of those countries had a right to bear arms cemented within the framework of their government. It’s not a right either, it’s understood rights are bestowed by the creator. It’s a limitation on the government from taking it. Every disarmed populace has always been followed by an oppressive govt. China, Burma, Germany, etc. Stalin, Mao, Hitler... all began by disarming their citizens.
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