SWA or UAL?
02-23-2018, 04:59 PM
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SWA or UAL?
I've got a professional acquaintance that is a new hire at SWA. Soon will be able to drive 90 minutes to MCO.... He has a UAL interview pending.
If you have a line to SWA v UAL previous discussions would love to see them. Would also like any fresh opinions.
Other factors: Wife has career job....happy in FL. Moving to DEN, HOU, SFO, or EWR probably highly unlikely for next 10 years. Pilot has Total Force security blanket for 8-12 more years and can do drills/deployments/other stuff if **** hits the fan and pay the bills. Also has successful side gig(s).
My own take is A) SWA is a proven, safe, solid job and he will be better than 99% of the world population if he stays put...but also B) 787s and 777s go all over the globe, international flying out of EWR or SFO could be very enjoyable for the right person and C) United has a good vector with the current CEO. (Like Anderson at Delta...I think the guy cares about the product and wants to make things better. I don't think he is just passing through...)
As a FedEx captain, I have no real inside info on the life of a junior, 5 year, and FedEx employee. There are a ton of reasons to sit tight, but I am interested in the pros/cons from those of you closest to the fight.
And yes...did a thread search and came up short. If this is all old news just post a link to the old threat and I apologize for wasting your time.
Finally--flying HKG-GUM-HNL in March on you guys in Biz. Looking forward to being impressed, and thanks in advance...
If you have a line to SWA v UAL previous discussions would love to see them. Would also like any fresh opinions.
Other factors: Wife has career job....happy in FL. Moving to DEN, HOU, SFO, or EWR probably highly unlikely for next 10 years. Pilot has Total Force security blanket for 8-12 more years and can do drills/deployments/other stuff if **** hits the fan and pay the bills. Also has successful side gig(s).
My own take is A) SWA is a proven, safe, solid job and he will be better than 99% of the world population if he stays put...but also B) 787s and 777s go all over the globe, international flying out of EWR or SFO could be very enjoyable for the right person and C) United has a good vector with the current CEO. (Like Anderson at Delta...I think the guy cares about the product and wants to make things better. I don't think he is just passing through...)
As a FedEx captain, I have no real inside info on the life of a junior, 5 year, and FedEx employee. There are a ton of reasons to sit tight, but I am interested in the pros/cons from those of you closest to the fight.
And yes...did a thread search and came up short. If this is all old news just post a link to the old threat and I apologize for wasting your time.
Finally--flying HKG-GUM-HNL in March on you guys in Biz. Looking forward to being impressed, and thanks in advance...
02-23-2018, 05:48 PM
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I've got a professional acquaintance that is a new hire at SWA. Soon will be able to drive 90 minutes to MCO.... He has a UAL interview pending.
If you have a line to SWA v UAL previous discussions would love to see them. Would also like any fresh opinions.
Other factors: Wife has career job....happy in FL. Moving to DEN, HOU, SFO, or EWR probably highly unlikely for next 10 years. Pilot has Total Force security blanket for 8-12 more years and can do drills/deployments/other stuff if **** hits the fan and pay the bills. Also has successful side gig(s).
My own take is A) SWA is a proven, safe, solid job and he will be better than 99% of the world population if he stays put...but also B) 787s and 777s go all over the globe, international flying out of EWR or SFO could be very enjoyable for the right person and C) United has a good vector with the current CEO. (Like Anderson at Delta...I think the guy cares about the product and wants to make things better. I don't think he is just passing through...)
As a FedEx captain, I have no real inside info on the life of a junior, 5 year, and FedEx employee. There are a ton of reasons to sit tight, but I am interested in the pros/cons from those of you closest to the fight.
And yes...did a thread search and came up short. If this is all old news just post a link to the old threat and I apologize for wasting your time.
Finally--flying HKG-GUM-HNL in March on you guys in Biz. Looking forward to being impressed, and thanks in advance...
If you have a line to SWA v UAL previous discussions would love to see them. Would also like any fresh opinions.
Other factors: Wife has career job....happy in FL. Moving to DEN, HOU, SFO, or EWR probably highly unlikely for next 10 years. Pilot has Total Force security blanket for 8-12 more years and can do drills/deployments/other stuff if **** hits the fan and pay the bills. Also has successful side gig(s).
My own take is A) SWA is a proven, safe, solid job and he will be better than 99% of the world population if he stays put...but also B) 787s and 777s go all over the globe, international flying out of EWR or SFO could be very enjoyable for the right person and C) United has a good vector with the current CEO. (Like Anderson at Delta...I think the guy cares about the product and wants to make things better. I don't think he is just passing through...)
As a FedEx captain, I have no real inside info on the life of a junior, 5 year, and FedEx employee. There are a ton of reasons to sit tight, but I am interested in the pros/cons from those of you closest to the fight.
And yes...did a thread search and came up short. If this is all old news just post a link to the old threat and I apologize for wasting your time.
Finally--flying HKG-GUM-HNL in March on you guys in Biz. Looking forward to being impressed, and thanks in advance...
02-23-2018, 06:21 PM
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Hey there Albie, BK here....you know I'm bullish on my UAL Home Team but absent a legit FL satellite base beyond the rumor mill, I'd have to say SWA is a safer choice. The SE U.S. is UAL's one weak area as we haven't dived into the seasonal/Disney crowd....with the large number of EWR and IAD Captains who are starting to grab 2nd homes in FL, I don't think the mainline commute from FL to DC or NYC will be truly easy for a while. I think a 90 min drive to a senior SWA base is a better play right now....
02-23-2018, 06:40 PM
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I've got a professional acquaintance that is a new hire at SWA. Soon will be able to drive 90 minutes to MCO.... He has a UAL interview pending.
If you have a line to SWA v UAL previous discussions would love to see them. Would also like any fresh opinions.
Other factors: Wife has career job....happy in FL. Moving to DEN, HOU, SFO, or EWR probably highly unlikely for next 10 years. Pilot has Total Force security blanket for 8-12 more years and can do drills/deployments/other stuff if **** hits the fan and pay the bills. Also has successful side gig(s).
My own take is A) SWA is a proven, safe, solid job and he will be better than 99% of the world population if he stays put...but also B) 787s and 777s go all over the globe, international flying out of EWR or SFO could be very enjoyable for the right person and C) United has a good vector with the current CEO. (Like Anderson at Delta...I think the guy cares about the product and wants to make things better. I don't think he is just passing through...)
As a FedEx captain, I have no real inside info on the life of a junior, 5 year, and FedEx employee. There are a ton of reasons to sit tight, but I am interested in the pros/cons from those of you closest to the fight.
And yes...did a thread search and came up short. If this is all old news just post a link to the old threat and I apologize for wasting your time.
Finally--flying HKG-GUM-HNL in March on you guys in Biz. Looking forward to being impressed, and thanks in advance...
If you have a line to SWA v UAL previous discussions would love to see them. Would also like any fresh opinions.
Other factors: Wife has career job....happy in FL. Moving to DEN, HOU, SFO, or EWR probably highly unlikely for next 10 years. Pilot has Total Force security blanket for 8-12 more years and can do drills/deployments/other stuff if **** hits the fan and pay the bills. Also has successful side gig(s).
My own take is A) SWA is a proven, safe, solid job and he will be better than 99% of the world population if he stays put...but also B) 787s and 777s go all over the globe, international flying out of EWR or SFO could be very enjoyable for the right person and C) United has a good vector with the current CEO. (Like Anderson at Delta...I think the guy cares about the product and wants to make things better. I don't think he is just passing through...)
As a FedEx captain, I have no real inside info on the life of a junior, 5 year, and FedEx employee. There are a ton of reasons to sit tight, but I am interested in the pros/cons from those of you closest to the fight.
And yes...did a thread search and came up short. If this is all old news just post a link to the old threat and I apologize for wasting your time.
Finally--flying HKG-GUM-HNL in March on you guys in Biz. Looking forward to being impressed, and thanks in advance...
And unless your buddy has a real aversion to 737s, I'd stay with SWA considering all his factors.
02-23-2018, 07:29 PM
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My own take is A) SWA is a proven, safe, solid job and he will be better than 99% of the world population if he stays put...but also B) 787s and 777s go all over the globe, international flying out of EWR or SFO could be very enjoyable for the right person and C) United has a good vector with the current CEO.
BTW Albief, I always find your posts to be well worth the time to read.
02-23-2018, 11:30 PM
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Commuting to never fly a 737 again is worth it. Driving to work makes this a completely different job but the idea of flying that miserable hate box for the rest of my career would be a tough desicion to make.
02-24-2018, 03:44 AM
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Unless you're going to a heavy with a significantly higher payscale... Even that is questionable.
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