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03-03-2018, 03:50 PM

#111

Monkeyfly

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If your number one concern is long term stability, (and you want to stay in the industry

), your decision is easy.

03-04-2018, 04:53 AM

#112

RckyMtHigh

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JetBlast77

Once you are senior in the right seat of a 777 or 787, you can fly 6 legs a month, work 9 days, and make 250K. As a captain you can do the same for 350K.

What’s the current time on property to get into a position like that? I assume it varies a bit between bases, but generally speaking how long? Does WB FO go senior to NB captain?

Just curious, I made my bed already...

03-04-2018, 05:08 AM

#113

terminal

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It can. There are a lot of WB FOs who are senior to NB Captains. But it isn’t necessarily more senior.

03-04-2018, 09:07 AM

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JoePatroni

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Originally Posted by RckyMtHigh

To fly the ultra long haul trips as a flying guy it’s 25+ years, to just hold the airplane I think is around 8-10.

03-04-2018, 10:10 AM

#115

pilotgolfer

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Originally Posted by JoePatroni

To fly the ultra long haul trips as a flying guy it’s 25+ years, to just hold the airplane I think is around 8-10.

There were two bids in the past 2 years where the 777 went extremely junior in all bases...especially SFO, IAD and ORD. We are talking about guys with 2 years at the airline. They bid at an opportune time because it has gone senior ever since. I’ve had only one person junior to me enterthe base in DC and I believe that was a base trade or hardship.

03-04-2018, 10:25 AM

#116

Stitches

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Quote:

Originally Posted by terminal

At SWA you cant make 20k a month working nine days in the right seat of a 777 either.

No but you can do it in the right seat of the 73. Ask me how I know

03-04-2018, 10:28 AM

#117

terminal

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stitches

No but you can do it in the right seat of the 73. Ask me how I know

In a non -vacation month?

03-04-2018, 10:44 AM

#118

NYC Pilot

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It all comes down to preference. Do you want to fly a POS RJ around for the rest of your career or do you want to fly state of the art widebody aircraft to exotic global destinations that people can only dream of visiting. I'm not even counting the nice hotels, crew meals and the ease of life on a widebody. Do guys at SWA even get crew meals? To me it seems no different than a regional other than pay. It may be a good company n all but not my cup of tea.

03-04-2018, 10:57 AM

#119

dmeg13021

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Please excuse all my old fart, out of touch brethren from late ‘80s reality.

SWA is great. UAL is great. Bases, equipment, and schedule are only meaningful differences. There are no tiers or prestige that exist outside of a few sad egos. Go with your heart (no pun intended) and you’ll be fine.