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Old 02-11-2018, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by pokey9554
I’m almost in the same boat as you Huggy. A very well respected friend of mine who is very accomplished didn’t even get an interview invite. He starts at Delta next month. Your buddy will catch a break.
I know someone with 13 air medals, great time, lots of combat transport/crew time going for an interview with another airline. Tired of the games UAL is playing.
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Originally Posted by Grumble
So do all captains get LCA override now since every Bus/Gup captain just became a flight instructor?
Funny. Next you're gonna hear someone chime in that the ATP is also an instructor certificate. You should be grateful for the opportunity to instruct.

"United is pleased to offer their experienced Captains an opportunity for more splendid flying combined with a superior opportunity to instruct in a real-world environment on a daily basis without add pay or any other incentive."
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Old 02-11-2018, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
You're right: not everyone gets hired. But I'd argue that maybe... just maybe... the hiring process could be improved.
They let pilots command the aircraft and the crew....so why aren't pilots in command of the hiring process that puts them in command of the jet and the crew?

are we AFU or what?
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Old 02-11-2018, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Rsv4lyfe
This isn’t the military anymore.
Please do not make this a military vs civilian thing.

If someone is a highly-experienced (and highly thought of) turbine pilot from RJs, F-16's, corporate, C-17's... or even the Recce world, then I find the hiring process suspect when a comparatively low-time, non-turbine Bonanza CFI gets the nod ahead of them. Do you not find this odd? What am I missing?
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Originally Posted by baseball
They let pilots command the aircraft and the crew....so why aren't pilots in command of the hiring process that puts them in command of the jet and the crew?

are we AFU or what?
Because there are rules and laws that are written for snowflakes and safe spaces that make sure things are even and quotas are met.

HR hires pilots it’s the only way to not get sued. It’s all very sad and it will never change because everyone is so sensitive and in tune to micro aggressions.
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Originally Posted by baseball
I know someone with 13 air medals, great time, lots of combat transport/crew time going for an interview with another airline. Tired of the games UAL is playing.
Similar story from the late 90's.. my buddy was the all time high composite score for Naval Air Training, total team player, liked by all, Top Gun Instructor, etc, etc. and just could NOT get an interview at United. Fortunately for him, he went to Southwest and has enjoyed a pretty good career. There's little rhyme or reason to who gets an interview and who doesn't. Apply to all the majors, take the first good offer .. that's the way it always has been and the way it will most likely continue to be.
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Old 02-11-2018, 03:48 PM
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Did they say anything about hiring people with no 121 time?
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
Please do not make this a military vs civilian thing.

If someone is a highly-experienced (and highly thought of) turbine pilot from RJs, F-16's, corporate, C-17's... or even the Recce world, then I find the hiring process suspect when a comparatively low-time, non-turbine Bonanza CFI gets the nod ahead of them. Do you not find this odd? What am I missing?
This...

The company talks a big game about being a world class airline, but actions speak louder than words.
I too know a great guy that was never offered an interview here and is now at Delta. Yet, we seems to have no problems with hiring low time pilots or some sort of CFI flow through.

Your friend will have a great career at some other airline.. win for them, and him. For us.. oh well.

Just my opinion.
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PS) Then again, we will turn down a United Express Captain yet the company will let him fly United Passengers a few days later under the 'express banner'. Unreal
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
Please do not make this a military vs civilian thing.

If someone is a highly-experienced (and highly thought of) turbine pilot from RJs, F-16's, corporate, C-17's... or even the Recce world, then I find the hiring process suspect when a comparatively low-time, non-turbine Bonanza CFI gets the nod ahead of them. Do you not find this odd? What am I missing?

I would guess nepotism.
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You guys are a riot. You talk about how awful United is for turning down good folks who then end up at Delta as if United is the only one turning down folks perceived as “great dudes” at interviews.

Interviewing is like test taking, some are good at it, some are not. And each test is different. Delta, American, United, SWA FedEx and UPS have all turned down “great guys,” too, some of whom have ended up at United.

Being so stressed and angry takes years off the back end of your life. On the positive, you won’t have to fund your RHA.


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