Sunvox

Just out . . .

and from the update . . .

NFLUALNFL

Wow
(filler to contain the exuberance)

Airhoss

Ditto....

Between this vacancy bid and our profit sharing this year I can barely contain my excitement..

Sunvox

I, too, wish it were a little more:

1803v 117 cap 165 fo
1804v 41 cap 21 fo
1805v 63 cap 75 fo
1806v 18 cap 59 fo

total 239 cap 320 fo

So over a six month period you have 559 vacancies and only 239 captain slots. With almost 400 retirements and 24 confirmed new planes. It simply doesn't seem to add up?

NFLUALNFL

Hey Hoss,
Do you think that between the vague references to bigger bids for next summer, and the construction and staffing issues at TK ending that maybe we might be near the end of this stagnation?

Hoping......
(again, still)

ugleeual

I'm guessing a big vacancy bid at the start of the summer with a training date of September. I don't see a lot of new hires in the plan because manpower still believes that furlough bypass will come back this year... just my opinion by reading the tea leaves.

EwrRocks

In my opinion 2017 was stagnated with the parking of the 747 early and almost all at once. 2018 is going to be stagnated up with the remaining furlough recall guys returning. After 10 years with company, my seniority number continues to climb monthly but it has not resulted in any BES improvements except coastal 320 and 737 FO. Hoping 2019 returns to more historically traditional movement in both seats. Time will tell.

Theonemarine

The report from the SSC recently confirmed the rune that the company wants to be much leaner with less reserves and higher LPA for lineholders. That could also be why they're bleeding retirements and not hiring topl cover them. A short of SWA operation is what they want. They said they want reserves flying 50-60 hours a month. They're nowhere near that right now.

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EwrRocks

Agreed. This along with 350 747 pilots and up to 300 furlough returnees moving into other existing fleets equals relative stagnation
we are seeing relative to other competitors. IMHO

MasterOfPuppets

We also still have bases that are way out of whack. We have 2 new hire classes worth of pilots sitting as FO in DCA on the 777, and thats before the loss of the GUM - NRT 7 day trip. We have 1 class of new hires sitting as FO in SFO on the 787. According to the last snap shot it looks like with the reduction of RSVs the 777 has 113 extra FOs, you take out the 777 DCA overstaffing and you get 79 thats another 2 new hire classes.

They also have an entire vacancy bid worth of WB CA bids sitting as CA in SFO on the 787. and that translates into upward movement stagnation and less new hires.

We aren't stagnant because of no growth or lack of opportunities we are stagnant because of the failures of man power planning with the Smizek regime, fences, 747 parking and the constant shifting of airframes in and out and back in to bases. The lack of backfills is what has killed the new hire numbers.