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01-29-2018, 04:08 AM
#21
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I'm not surprised at new pilots lamenting relative movement compared to Delta, but I am surprised at some of the regulars chiming in. By now every pilot in the world should know being a pilot is like playing a game of musical chairs. All you can do is hope that there's a chair near you when the music finally stops.
01-29-2018, 08:01 AM
#22
Get me outta here...
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Maybe so, and thanks for sharing your immense perspective.
I just found out this morning that another guy I know is a NY-based Airbus Captain with less than 4 years at DAL... and holds a line. I'm glad they are enjoying it during this transitory period.
I just found out this morning that another guy I know is a NY-based Airbus Captain with less than 4 years at DAL... and holds a line. I'm glad they are enjoying it during this transitory period.
01-29-2018, 08:30 AM
#23
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We will either hire a lot or almost none at all.
You can take that the bank!!
01-29-2018, 09:11 AM
#24
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01-30-2018, 09:06 AM
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Well you said might, but if Delta stagnated like United is now the junior CA at Delta would be 5 years on property the junior CA at United would be 13 years on property. I don’t think Delta was hiring in 2003 so you’re probably off a couple of years. If the industry goes through enough turmoil to shift CA’s at Delta to 15 years as you say, the doors will be shutting at United. Any way you rack and stack the numbers United is a poorly managed airline, and that along with demographics has resulted in stagnant seniority list. If I was in new hire class or even finishing up year one at United and Delta called I’d bail in a heartbeat, and I live in a United Hub.
01-30-2018, 09:29 AM
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Well you said might, but if Delta stagnated like United is now the junior CA at Delta would be 5 years on property the junior CA at United would be 13 years on property. I don’t think Delta was hiring in 2003 so you’re probably off a couple of years. If the industry goes through enough turmoil to shift CA’s at Delta to 15 years as you say, the doors will be shutting at United. Any way you rack and stack the numbers United is a poorly managed airline, and that along with demographics has resulted in stagnant seniority list. If I was in new hire class or even finishing up year one at United and Delta called I’d bail in a heartbeat, and I live in a United Hub.
01-30-2018, 09:49 AM
#30
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It would be VERY shortsighted to go to Delta after a year. Why? Look at how many young people they have hired in the last five years. Things will be great when you get into the left seat of a mad dog but realize that long term you will have 2000-3000 people younger than you for your entire career stacked ahead of you. I'm young and am projected to have less than 100 guys ahead of me when I retire. So if I were to bail to DAL for a short term gain (which would be nice) long term it would be a disaster.
Hold the line on scope and we'll get through this.
Buy the ticket, take the ride. Hunter S. Thompson
Hold the line on scope and we'll get through this.
Buy the ticket, take the ride. Hunter S. Thompson
