Jukem88

Don’t most of those 756 vacancies expire on the 14th of this month... just a few left from this latest vacancy?

GoCats67

Yes, everything for the next new hire class has to come out of the most recent vacancy closing (19-07), the bids from 19-05 expire tomorrow.

Ohlsan

So just to be clear the 19th drop will be from 19-07(below). I am in the 19th class and just trying to figure out what to bid for should I have the chance.

DCA 320 FO 1

EWR 320 FO 15
EWR 737 FO 08
EWR 756 FO 05

LAX 737 FO 16

SFO 320 FO 63
SFO 737 FO 75
SFO 756 FO 01

GoCats67

Yes, Kind of!

That is the broadest list that it could be. The company can offer any of those to new hires, but does not have to. They can't offer anything that is not on that list, but they can limit the offerings to whatever they need most out of that list.

So, for instance, if they decide they totally messed up the 737 fleet in SFO they could offer nothing but SFO 737. Now, they won't do that, because really what they are trying to do is fill the training capacity that they have already planned, so they will likely spread the assignments available across the fleets to continue to fill the training slots in time order. Since most of the fleets (if not all) are training at almost capacity right now, I don't think they can vary too much from their plan.

SGRogue

There are good points to be made about going 756 and none of this discussion applies to the 756. But if you haven't figured it out, most new hires go 737 or bus to either coast because of the shorter reserve time and ability to bid up without a 2 year seat lock. I won't get into which coast is better for trips or seniority (after being here 7 months, they are fairly close in both those categories for me). Instead, you should let where you live/commute from dictate your choice (I know an east coast 737 guy slightly senior to me that is bidding back to SFO because his commute is easier than to EWR).

Even if all they offer you on day one is SFO/LAX, you're realistically only one or two vacancy bids from getting to EWR or DCA (possibly even before out of training). If ORD, DEN, IAH or CLE is your end game, no matter what aircraft you chose it could be 6 months to 6 years because of the seniority/lack of movement and when you get there you'll be on reserve. But hey everyone in my class that wanted ORD, DEN, or IAH is there now and sitting reserve at home (their idea if QOL).

Another reality, unless you live within respectable driving distance, you'll be commuting to sit reserve at a crashpad (don't expect to sit long call from home your entire reserve block). You'll get tagged for short call and field stand by periodically (or you can volunteer for it to control your reserve block). Crashpad life sucks in general, but some locations suck more than others.

In a nut shell, don't think of where you want to be after IOE, but rather where do you want to be in 1 year. On the 737 or bus, you have a shot at getting to any base (except CLE) within that year in today's climate. Oh yeah, don't forget that GUM is on the table.

O2pilot

The 767-300 is a widebody plane. Quoting pay is stupid. That’s like saying 777 FO is a narrowbody position because it pays less than Guppy Captain.

horrido27

Any MAX bids?
Too soon?!
;-)
Motch

Ohlsan

Thanks GoCats and SGRogue, my goal is 737 followed by SFO, I was assuming that I would end up 756(youngish, and last few drops), but now it is looking like I may get my wish..

SUX4U

No ******* it’s a widebody airplane, but to me what the plane pays is more important than how many aisles an airplane has. Maybe if 777 FO paid the same as 737 FO you’d be on to something. But you’re not. So that’s stupid.

SGRogue

Yeah, getting forced into a 756 is always a possibility. If that happens, be positive and make the most of it. There is good to be found in everything we fly. I like the 737, but I would have been just as happy in the bus or 756 with EWR as my base since it is the easiest commute for me. Good luck and enjoy the ride.