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#4123
Exactly this. We've got 500+ aircraft coming in the next few years, to include a bunch of WB. With Frontier not getting their XLRs and JB/Spirit deferring their 321neos, we will effectively get most of their new Airbus as they attempt to save money.
We are also hiring their captains out from under them so there is no value add to try to merge with any of them.
That being said, I hope the consumer demand can support the massive growth Kirby has in mind. It's all good to buy a bunch of planes and hire pilots, but overcapacity is already starting to seem like a big problem.
We are also hiring their captains out from under them so there is no value add to try to merge with any of them.
That being said, I hope the consumer demand can support the massive growth Kirby has in mind. It's all good to buy a bunch of planes and hire pilots, but overcapacity is already starting to seem like a big problem.
#4125
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Kirby's plan of adding 500+ aircraft is really ambitious for an industry that he himself has called "inelastic". You can't create demand in this industry out of nothing, we're already seeing it on the domestic side, and I think the international boom is fools gold. It relies on a very strong economy and lots of disposable income. I truly hope it works out for you guys.
Or as Professor Stringer Bell puts it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
eYWYgTjMQh4
And yes, you certainly can create travel demand. People from New York might not be interested in flying to one carribbean island because it's a long trip, multiple connections, expensive airfare etc. But add a direct flight for a reasonable price and suddenly you're going to create demand for people to go there instead of some other tropical destinations. Just like people may want to fly into regional airp[orts but they don't want to be crammed into a ****ty RJ and pay expensive seats. Adds seats with a quality mainline product, lower the price per seat, and now that might be worth it instead of driving 3 hours to an airport.
#4127
Kirby's plan of adding 500+ aircraft is really ambitious for an industry that he himself has called "inelastic". You can't create demand in this industry out of nothing, we're already seeing it on the domestic side, and I think the international boom is fools gold. It relies on a very strong economy and lots of disposable income. I truly hope it works out for you guys.
Anyone have thoughts on that?
#4128
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Joined APC: May 2023
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I've been wondering about this myself. Planning to take on 500+ airframes seems hugely ambitious. However, per my dumb pilot/line donkey understanding, isn't the point of the "United Next" plan to essentially absorb some significant portion of the current United regional feed portfolio and return that flying to in-house? So at least some amount of that "growth" isn't really growing capacity?
Anyone have thoughts on that?
Anyone have thoughts on that?
I think King Kirby wishes to keep as many serfs as he can serving his various Noblemen: Count Ornstein and Count Hoefling. However these Vassels are running out of Serfs to help them work the said Lords fields.
I think to some remote markets, the fee for departure carriers can't keep up with the frequncies of the last decade.
I mean I'm flying many routes on da Bus that I used to fly on the 145 10+ years ago, but there are places now that used to have 5 flights a day on a 50 seat jet back then, now its 2 flights a day one on an A319 and one on E 170. Capacity almost the same.
Of course the economics were different, labour for the FFD carriers has gone up about 248% since then.....
If Labor at the FFD carriers goes the opposite direction....I dont think.......I know Wacker Drive will try to get as much flying done by regionals as scope will allow.
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