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06-08-2024, 04:55 PM
#4042
Perennial Reserve
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Question about A321/321XLR
Although A319/320/321 have a common type, the 321 is in a higher pay group than the 319/320, the same group as the 757. And the A321 isn't listed at all in 8-D-1c .
I realize there aren't currently just a lot of 321s in the inventory, but are the 321s managed as a different vacancy group flown by a subset of the 320 qualified pilots who fly nothing else, or in common with the other 320 qualified pilots but just receiving the higher pay schedule when happening to actually be scheduled to fly the 321? For that matter, if someone is a newly minted 737 pilot, can they break seat lock by going to the 321 since it is in a higher pay band? If that's anywhere in UPA 23 I haven't been able to find it.
Thanks
I realize there aren't currently just a lot of 321s in the inventory, but are the 321s managed as a different vacancy group flown by a subset of the 320 qualified pilots who fly nothing else, or in common with the other 320 qualified pilots but just receiving the higher pay schedule when happening to actually be scheduled to fly the 321? For that matter, if someone is a newly minted 737 pilot, can they break seat lock by going to the 321 since it is in a higher pay band? If that's anywhere in UPA 23 I haven't been able to find it.
Thanks
06-08-2024, 04:59 PM
#4043
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 2,500
Although A319/320/321 have a common type, the 321 is in a higher pay group than the 319/320, the same group as the 757. And the A321 isn't listed at all in 8-D-1c .
I realize there aren't currently just a lot of 321s in the inventory, but are the 321s managed as a different vacancy group flown by a subset of the 320 qualified pilots who fly nothing else, or in common with the other 320 qualified pilots but just receiving the higher pay schedule when happening to actually be scheduled to fly the 321? For that matter, if someone is a newly minted 737 pilot, can they break seat lock by going to the 321 since it is in a higher pay band? If that's anywhere in UPA 23 I haven't been able to find it.
Thanks
I realize there aren't currently just a lot of 321s in the inventory, but are the 321s managed as a different vacancy group flown by a subset of the 320 qualified pilots who fly nothing else, or in common with the other 320 qualified pilots but just receiving the higher pay schedule when happening to actually be scheduled to fly the 321? For that matter, if someone is a newly minted 737 pilot, can they break seat lock by going to the 321 since it is in a higher pay band? If that's anywhere in UPA 23 I haven't been able to find it.
Thanks
There are only a few of them and they only fly out of ORD. Not necessarily all ORD pairings, but are either to or from there.
06-08-2024, 09:27 PM
#4044
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 12,096
https://ibb.co/Jv9MscV][/url[/url]]Those do appear to be in a different pay category than the 319/320s
06-09-2024, 02:19 AM
#4045
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 90
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I was referring to the A321NEO and the eventual A321 XLR.
https://ibb.co/Jv9MscV][/url]
Those do appear to be in a different pay category than the 319/320s
https://ibb.co/Jv9MscV][/url]Those do appear to be in a different pay category than the 319/320s
06-09-2024, 05:06 AM
#4046
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 2,500
Yes--I understood what you were saying; but the categories or BES (base-equipment-seat) for the 320-family are not bid separately. Similarly, the 756 is also the same, although the 767-400 gets WB pay.
06-09-2024, 05:47 AM
#4047
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 10
06-09-2024, 06:51 AM
#4048
Seat 0B
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: 777 FO
Posts: 793
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I was referring to the A321NEO and the eventual A321 XLR.
https://i.ibb.co/Jv9MscV/IMG-7256.jpghttps://ibb.co/Jv9MscV]https://i.ibb.co/Jv9MscV/IMG-7256.jpg
Those do appear to be in a different pay category than the 319/320s
https://i.ibb.co/Jv9MscV/IMG-7256.jpghttps://ibb.co/Jv9MscV]https://i.ibb.co/Jv9MscV/IMG-7256.jpg
Those do appear to be in a different pay category than the 319/320s
06-09-2024, 11:46 AM
#4050
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 2,500
Not sure how that answered your question—to be clear, blended rates do not apply to flying a specific aircraft. You get paid at the rate for the aircraft actually flown. Blended rates apply to DH, Reserve MPG, etc… times when you aren’t flying an aircraft.
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