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Old 01-25-2024, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
You really can’t fail the hogan. Everyone gets the interview after the hogan. Just don’t be a tool and you’ll be fine
This. Don't overthink it. Just choose the answer to each question that comes immediately to mind. Don't answer with what you think you "should" say.

One useful tip I got from other posters: when reading each question, mentally insert the phrase "When I'm at work..." before each question. Then answer the question as if that phrase was included.

Do the test in a quiet space with no distractions. I took mine with a glass of wine in the evening, in my home office with the door closed. Don't try to do it in the crew room at ORD during a short stint of airport appreciation time...
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Old 01-25-2024, 06:30 PM
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Is there a recommended site/company for hogan prep?
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I've never heard of Hogan prep, especially since the answers are so subjective it's hard to know exactly how the company wants you to answer, and if you get too specific at trying to follow a specific roadmap/personality its likely to flag as a poor score. The best advice I've heard is 1- be consistent, 2- remember the airline is hiring you to be a captain so if the question asks would you prefer to lead or get out of the way, put your big boy hat on and choose step up, not "Boy I would love to bid reserve and never fly so I'll choose the avoid work option", and 3- mentally add *at work* to the end of every question.
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Old 01-26-2024, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueScholar
I've never heard of Hogan prep, especially since the answers are so subjective it's hard to know exactly how the company wants you to answer, and if you get too specific at trying to follow a specific roadmap/personality its likely to flag as a poor score. The best advice I've heard is 1- be consistent, 2- remember the airline is hiring you to be a captain so if the question asks would you prefer to lead or get out of the way, put your big boy hat on and choose step up, not "Boy I would love to bid reserve and never fly so I'll choose the avoid work option", and 3- mentally add *at work* to the end of every question.
Thank you. I know nothing about the Hogan test but sounds straight forward.
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Old 01-26-2024, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
This. Don't overthink it. Just choose the answer to each question that comes immediately to mind. Don't answer with what you think you "should" say.

One useful tip I got from other posters: when reading each question, mentally insert the phrase "When I'm at work..." before each question. Then answer the question as if that phrase was included.

Do the test in a quiet space with no distractions. I took mine with a glass of wine in the evening, in my home office with the door closed. Don't try to do it in the crew room at ORD during a short stint of airport appreciation time...
This is how I approached the Hogan in 2017, it's still the same advice.

You might not like crowds at Target a few days before xmas, but do crowds really bother you in the terminal? Ex: Its a ground stop in DEN, and now have time to get your favorite dinner instead of a 25 minute turn. I don't give a crap about those crowds because I know my way throught the annoying passengers to the nearest (restaraunt) to get my yummy (food) before our leg to (overnight), and I can eat in peace once I get to the crew room.
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Old 01-26-2024, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dingdong
This is how I approached the Hogan in 2017, it's still the same advice.

You might not like crowds at Target a few days before xmas, but do crowds really bother you in the terminal? Ex: Its a ground stop in DEN, and now have time to get your favorite dinner instead of a 25 minute turn. I don't give a crap about those crowds because I know my way throught the annoying passengers to the nearest (restaraunt) to get my yummy (food) before our leg to (overnight), and I can eat in peace once I get to the crew room.
It also helps that the sea of people part like you’re Moses when you’re in uniform. No one wants to bump into the pilot and no one questions it lol so I guess crowds in that context aren’t bad at all. Okay, now back to the hogan..
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Old 02-01-2024, 07:44 AM
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Anyone have class drop from this week? Curious what was out there besides 73FO. Also wondeirng if CA spots are going senior or junior.

TIA
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Old 02-01-2024, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by airspeed alive
Anyone have class drop from this week? Curious what was out there besides 73FO. Also wondeirng if CA spots are going senior or junior.

TIA
10 Houston bus FO.

The rest were 737, with Captain offerings for EWR, DEN, SFO, and ORD.

FO offerings for IAH and there were two Guam FO, which went last (shocker).
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Old 02-01-2024, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JTwift
FO offerings for IAH and there were two Guam FO, which went last (shocker).
GUM isn't a bad deal for a NH with the right lifestyle. Island pay + yr 2 pay out of the gate. Throw everything into a storage locker back on the mainland and go explore Asia on your days off.
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Old 02-01-2024, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JediCheese
GUM isn't a bad deal for a NH with the right lifestyle. Island pay + yr 2 pay out of the gate. Throw everything into a storage locker back on the mainland and go explore Asia on your days off.
I'm trying to imagine doing that commute. It's 15 hrs (13 hrs block plus connection in HNL) and that's from the West Coast. Imagine someone living on the East Coast, hoping for EWR and getting GUM. It's literally 24 hours, door to door, each way.

I'd probably just move there. Can't imagine that commute (to RSV!)
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
I'm trying to imagine doing that commute. It's 15 hrs (13 hrs block plus connection in HNL) and that's from the West Coast. Imagine someone living on the East Coast, hoping for EWR and getting GUM. It's literally 24 hours, door to door, each way.

I'd probably just move there. Can't imagine that commute (to RSV!)
well, what you do is hope for a vacancy this week, bid out of Guam, and enjoy 2nd year pay and $3500/month while you’re in training and waiting for the vacancy date to activate.

I think it works like that, right?
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