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Old 01-02-2024, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronin47
How long to hold ORD as newhire, ie NB 73 Captain? I understand SFO/DEN/EWR are junior for now. Thanks in advance.
Current junior ORD Captain is 16275 and junior pilot in system is about 17000. So about 4 months for the current junior guy, meaning long before he is elibible to actually go to Captain training!
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Old 01-02-2024, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
Current junior ORD Captain is 16275 and junior pilot in system is about 17000. So about 4 months for the current junior guy, meaning long before he is elibible to actually go to Captain training!
Does anyone have some interview gouge?

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Old 01-02-2024, 12:40 PM
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Does anyone have some interview gouge?

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Aviationinterviews is a good resource along with an interview consulting company such as Marshall or Emerald Coast.
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Old 01-02-2024, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by adt88
Aviationinterviews is a good resource along with an interview consulting company such as Marshall or Emerald Coast.
Appreciate the info! I received a side message with a bunch of "gouge" info as well.

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Old 01-02-2024, 09:36 PM
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How long to hold a line on the equipment based in IAH as an FO? Also, system wide where is the most junior captain holding a line now and what was their hire date?
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Old 01-03-2024, 05:07 AM
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How long to hold a line on the equipment based in IAH as an FO? Also, system wide where is the most junior captain holding a line now and what was their hire date?
Today IAH is junior & an FO line takes only a couple months. However, w/ the company’s ability to staff bases w/ NH CAs & FOs, a significant base realignment seems to be underway. Expect more junior positions to return to the coasts in both seats. More so than usual, today’s numbers should not be the basis of future expectations.
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Old 01-03-2024, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by maniac28
Also, system wide where is the most junior captain holding a line now and what was their hire date?
This is a difficult question because of many variables. I can't see the document that shows the g-line (percentage in base that's guaranteed a line) right now, but a swag is 9000-10000 for most junior bases to hold a line - and we're hiring almost into 17k I believe. Again what that number actually means obviously varies percentage-wise in each base, but if you're looking at taking an immediate CA bid, get right with being on reserve for a LONG time. Some may jump in and say I held a line/lines at xx seniority, but the outliers generally waive everything and have garbage lines. Even consistently holding a junior line can blow - 89.9 month after month, 13 days off, crappy trips, etc.

Living fairly close makes most of this a moot point if you don't mind being on the leash and not having total control of your time.
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Old 01-03-2024, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by maniac28
How long to hold a line on the equipment based in IAH as an FO? Also, system wide where is the most junior captain holding a line now and what was their hire date?
There are very precise answers to those questions, but they will be of little use to someone hired in 2024.

IAH - the base was grown like a sumo wrestler the past year because no one would bid captain anywhere else. It will stagnate or shrink over the next couple years given the company can now get captains where they want. Seniority progression in IAH there is gonna change forever, not for better

Captain - Best I can tell the junior junior lineholding captain is slightly pre-covid and about 65% system seniority. A more typical most-base number is around 55% system seniority. Even setting aside the contractual changes designed to make NBCA more attractive ... it's gonna take a good while for a 2024 hire to hit 60% system seniority. In the currently rosy predictions of 28,000 pilots by 2030, a 2024 hire would get there from growth alone. Roughly 3000 retirements are coming in the next 5 years. Taking that into account, an early 2024 hire would hit 60% in 5 years with growth from 17K to 23K pilots.
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Old 01-04-2024, 02:55 PM
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What were the class drops from Jan 2? And resulting award
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Old 01-04-2024, 03:45 PM
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What were the class drops from Jan 2? And resulting award
LOTS of forced captain slots. Lots, as in nearly 50% of the class.
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