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12-28-2023, 10:34 AM

#3531

fostro

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Originally Posted by kevin18

Apparently 2500 a year for the foreseeable future.

WOW! Great news!

Unity...

12-28-2023, 11:21 AM

#3532

aviator1998

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Whats the current timeline to hold DEN756? I've heard the flying is pretty bad and basically consists of redeye transcons or the unicorn Hawaii trip. How easy is it to trade into Hawaii flying for DEN pilots?

12-28-2023, 11:33 AM

#3533

FlyGuy999

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Also curious how long it takes to hold 75 in EWR?

12-28-2023, 11:44 AM

#3534

60av8tor

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Originally Posted by FlyGuy999

Also curious how long it takes to hold 75 in EWR?

Looks like the latest vacancy had new hires still in training awarded EWR 756.

12-28-2023, 11:45 AM

#3535

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Originally Posted by aviator1998

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Originally Posted by FlyGuy999

Also curious how long it takes to hold 75 in EWR?

Can’t really speak to the DEN 756 flying personally, but I’d put time to hold somewhere around 9 months or so. No vacancies on the last two bids, but it went to someone who’s about 1350 numbers from the current bottom during the bid that closed in October.

EWR 756 went about 50 numbers from the bottom of the list on the last bid.

12-28-2023, 12:35 PM

#3536

MasterOfPuppets

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Originally Posted by aviator1998

if you got into this industry to be on a 4 day vacation every trip then yeah the DEN 756 flying is terrible. If you want to work very productive 2 and 3 day trips then the flying is great. You can get 16-17 days off easily.

The Hawaii flying is fun once your there but that redeye home is one of the worst in the system.

The red eyes can be avoided.

12-28-2023, 03:17 PM

#3537

C11DCA

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Originally Posted by 11atsomto

It is important to note for the 320, that the company was not excersizing 8-D-6 for EWR 320, just ORD, SFO and DEN, of which therere were no unfilleds.

What this basically means is that there wont be any 320 CA positions available to new hires as they did not release a freeze on EWR 320 CA.

My aplogies to those from Froniter, Spirit, JetBlue, Allegiant, Volaris and VivaAerobus

but that doesn't mean those other airline Airbus pilots won't be able to bid for Bus Captain once on the property. They just won't get it as their initial award.

12-28-2023, 03:20 PM

#3538

C11DCA

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Originally Posted by Blueskiess

interesting, Delta is only projecting 1,100 or so

We have 130+ narrowbody deliveries scheduled plus 8 or so 787's (back half of the year). Planned aircraft retirements are minimal. Add in roughly 400 pilot retirements and you get to that need for 2500.

12-28-2023, 04:07 PM

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prex8390

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Originally Posted by C11DCA

DL hit peak retirement this year too. American and United still have like 4 more years until they are over that hump. At least let the numbers on this site.