New Hire Classes and Drops
#3202
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DCA 320 FO 4
EWR 320 FO 35
EWR 737 FO 76
IAH 320 FO 30
IAH 737 FO 74
LAX 320 FO 8
LAX 737 FO 5
ORD 320 FO 3
SFO 320 FO 21
SFO 737 FO 26
SFO 756 FO 21
SFO 777 FO 1
SFO 787 FO 11
All of these plus unfilled Captain assignments, but the Captain assignments can't be given out to newhire pilots.
The bid was awarded a couple of days ago and any of the assignments can be given out to new hires for 92 days from bid closing. This is a contractual rule , so other assignments from previous bids are still available as long as the bid was awarded less than 92 days ago.
The company has complete discretion on which bid to give out and which to not give out. So, you will never know for sure which ones will be in your class, but they first have to go "unfilled" on a vacancy bid before being offered to a new hire class, so they will come from that list.
#3204
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Thanks for that. Working my way through a lot of info here, so apologies if this has been posted numerous times. But, how does seniority progression look in the long term? If I’m not mistaken, the pilot group is around 16,500 strong with a desire to reach 28,000 in the next decade? Is that a realistic goal? Looks like mando retirements start to rise from 2026-2031 timeframe (7400 mandos from today until then).
What barriers do you see for someone interested in joining UAL today? Articles I see don’t indicate any slow down due to known economic performance in the near term. I’d be bidding mid-pack due to my age and more interested in QOL and seniority than big WB money right away.
What barriers do you see for someone interested in joining UAL today? Articles I see don’t indicate any slow down due to known economic performance in the near term. I’d be bidding mid-pack due to my age and more interested in QOL and seniority than big WB money right away.
This a hundred times
At 40 I guess I'm on the higher side but how much more hiring is really going to happen ya always my question and has the ship sailed. If united has hired 5000 so far that as you say nearly accounts for all retirements then just growth ?
I know I've asked this a few times in different places but the just crazy hiring is terrifying at 40. At 20 it's a no brainer
Edit. The next 5 years of retirements only come out to 3000+ so we're already at plus 2000 hires in 2028
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#3205
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This a hundred times
At 40 I guess I'm on the higher side but how much more hiring is really going to happen ya always my question and has the ship sailed. If united has hired 5000 so far that as you say nearly accounts for all retirements then just growth ?
I know I've asked this a few times in different places but the just crazy hiring is terrifying at 40. At 20 it's a no brainer
Edit. The next 5 years of retirements only come out to 3000+ so we're already at plus 2000 hires in 2028
At 40 I guess I'm on the higher side but how much more hiring is really going to happen ya always my question and has the ship sailed. If united has hired 5000 so far that as you say nearly accounts for all retirements then just growth ?
I know I've asked this a few times in different places but the just crazy hiring is terrifying at 40. At 20 it's a no brainer
Edit. The next 5 years of retirements only come out to 3000+ so we're already at plus 2000 hires in 2028
#3206
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They’re not going to fly half empty 73’s into these small towns. The routes they do keep will be serviced once or twice a day and that will be that. All flying should be done by mainline pilots anyways.
#3207
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Why is it only United pilots who think this. Most of you came from the regionals correct? You should know better. You won’t be “absorbing the majority of regional flying”. The routes will just disappear.
They’re not going to fly half empty 73’s into these small towns. The routes they do keep will be serviced once or twice a day and that will be that. All flying should be done by mainline pilots anyways.
They’re not going to fly half empty 73’s into these small towns. The routes they do keep will be serviced once or twice a day and that will be that. All flying should be done by mainline pilots anyways.
#3208
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Why is it only United pilots who think this. Most of you came from the regionals correct? You should know better. You won’t be “absorbing the majority of regional flying”. The routes will just disappear.
They’re not going to fly half empty 73’s into these small towns. The routes they do keep will be serviced once or twice a day and that will be that. All flying should be done by mainline pilots anyways.
They’re not going to fly half empty 73’s into these small towns. The routes they do keep will be serviced once or twice a day and that will be that. All flying should be done by mainline pilots anyways.
The more interesting question is why do prospective new hires think United is unique in the hiring surge? Every major is hiring like mad, we were actually behind in 2019, starting to finally catch up now.
#3209
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There's a decent amount of consolidation that can happen in markets that had 500-1000 seats a day but it was 4 flight/houston, 4 flights/chicago, 2 flights/dulles, 3 flights/newark all on RJ. Maybe they go to 3 hubs now with 2X 737 and 4X RJ
#3210
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This a hundred times
At 40 I guess I'm on the higher side but how much more hiring is really going to happen ya always my question and has the ship sailed. If united has hired 5000 so far that as you say nearly accounts for all retirements then just growth ?
I know I've asked this a few times in different places but the just crazy hiring is terrifying at 40. At 20 it's a no brainer
Edit. The next 5 years of retirements only come out to 3000+ so we're already at plus 2000 hires in 2028
At 40 I guess I'm on the higher side but how much more hiring is really going to happen ya always my question and has the ship sailed. If united has hired 5000 so far that as you say nearly accounts for all retirements then just growth ?
I know I've asked this a few times in different places but the just crazy hiring is terrifying at 40. At 20 it's a no brainer
Edit. The next 5 years of retirements only come out to 3000+ so we're already at plus 2000 hires in 2028
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