New Hire Classes and Drops
07-20-2023, 09:29 AM
#3191
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Position: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.
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07-20-2023, 09:42 AM
#3192
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Thanks for that. Working my way through a lot of info here, so apologies if this has been posted numerous times. But, how does seniority progression look in the long term? If I’m not mistaken, the pilot group is around 16,500 strong with a desire to reach 28,000 in the next decade? Is that a realistic goal? Looks like mando retirements start to rise from 2026-2031 timeframe (7400 mandos from today until then).
What barriers do you see for someone interested in joining UAL today? Articles I see don’t indicate any slow down due to known economic performance in the near term. I’d be bidding mid-pack due to my age and more interested in QOL and seniority than big WB money right away.
What barriers do you see for someone interested in joining UAL today? Articles I see don’t indicate any slow down due to known economic performance in the near term. I’d be bidding mid-pack due to my age and more interested in QOL and seniority than big WB money right away.
But i don’t see anywhere else that has a compelling case they will beat United over 10-20 years. So i would reframe your question more as: “ will my current job or CJO x be better in 2035?”
07-20-2023, 10:40 AM
#3193
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Position: 777
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Now, you want a cold cockpit, noisy, miserable to be stuck in, how about a 727-100? No kidding, you had to turn up the instrument lights to warm up the cockpit in the winter....
07-20-2023, 01:47 PM
#3194
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There seems to be a trend of Guppy bashing amongst people that have exactly 0 time flying the Guppy. No it’s not a sexy airplane, yes it can get backed into performance corners more often than one would like, no there isn’t a lot of room for your stuff, yes you have to actually move switches, you have to think and be a pilot a little bit, and yes you have to contend with the damn trim wheel. With all that said it’s not nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be, it does the best flying if you’re looking for variety, and you have the most options of where to be based. When you’ve got a few thousand hours on it and want to ***** have at it. You’ve earned it then.
07-21-2023, 05:34 AM
#3195
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People complaining about the 737 must never have flown the CRJ or ERJ145. I’ve spent 6 years on the 737 and it was the great aircraft ever created when I got my first mainline paycheck 🫠 (because I finally made it to mainline and I didn’t care if I was flying a 172). It’s really not bad, and at United the flying and seniority progression overall is better
07-21-2023, 08:19 AM
#3196
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Position: 737 CA
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People complaining about the 737 must never have flown the CRJ or ERJ145. I’ve spent 6 years on the 737 and it was the great aircraft ever created when I got my first mainline paycheck 🫠 (because I finally made it to mainline and I didn’t care if I was flying a 172). It’s really not bad, and at United the flying and seniority progression overall is better
With 700 airframes soon to be on property, good luck avoiding it.
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