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Old 07-18-2023, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ShoutVFR
Anybody know if the 73 typically goes to the bottom of the class or is it relatively mixed?

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like other have said, it’s a crap shoot., try not to put too much thought into it because you won’t have much say being the age you are. United gives the older guys better seniority for new hires, for better or worse.
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Old 07-19-2023, 12:18 AM
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Well ... one day Hertz will rent you a car and you can also bid the bus. But for now ... get zen with the guppy
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Old 07-19-2023, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ShoutVFR
Anybody know if the 73 typically goes to the bottom of the class or is it relatively mixed?

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If you can't handle the 737 for two years of your 40 to 42 year UAL career.... idk what to tell ya.
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Old 07-19-2023, 11:46 AM
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If you want to stay on the bus for 40 years, stay at F9.

Your last plane will be a Boeing, might as well start learning.
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Old 07-20-2023, 04:38 AM
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Now that the AIP has been released, does anyone have any insight as to how class drops might change? When is the next system bid and do you suspect some of the NB CA seats will start to get filled?
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
If you can't handle the 737 for two years of your 40 to 42 year UAL career.... idk what to tell ya.
how bad can the 73 be? Lol
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Old 07-20-2023, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Smoked
Now that the AIP has been released, does anyone have any insight as to how class drops might change? When is the next system bid and do you suspect some of the NB CA seats will start to get filled?
Unlikely the drops change significantly. They’re mostly nb fo and will stay that way. If commuting/reserve gets better, expect the wbfo spots to migrate back senior.

Nbca changes will slowly happen over a year depending on details on paper and real life and airframe deliveries.

Next system bid will probably be within a month to staff winter training for summer ‘24 flying
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Old 07-20-2023, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Brickfire
Unlikely the drops change significantly. They’re mostly nb fo and will stay that way. If commuting/reserve gets better, expect the wbfo spots to migrate back senior.

Nbca changes will slowly happen over a year depending on details on paper and real life and airframe deliveries.

Next system bid will probably be within a month to staff winter training for summer ‘24 flying
Thanks for that. Working my way through a lot of info here, so apologies if this has been posted numerous times. But, how does seniority progression look in the long term? If I’m not mistaken, the pilot group is around 16,500 strong with a desire to reach 28,000 in the next decade? Is that a realistic goal? Looks like mando retirements start to rise from 2026-2031 timeframe (7400 mandos from today until then).

What barriers do you see for someone interested in joining UAL today? Articles I see don’t indicate any slow down due to known economic performance in the near term. I’d be bidding mid-pack due to my age and more interested in QOL and seniority than big WB money right away.
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Old 07-20-2023, 07:53 AM
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There seems to be a trend of Guppy bashing amongst people that have exactly 0 time flying the Guppy. No it’s not a sexy airplane, yes it can get backed into performance corners more often than one would like, no there isn’t a lot of room for your stuff, yes you have to actually move switches, you have to think and be a pilot a little bit, and yes you have to contend with the damn trim wheel. With all that said it’s not nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be, it does the best flying if you’re looking for variety, and you have the most options of where to be based. When you’ve got a few thousand hours on it and want to ***** have at it. You’ve earned it then.
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Old 07-20-2023, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by luv757
No it’s not a sexy airplane, yes it can get backed into performance corners more often than one would like, no there isn’t a lot of room for your stuff, yes you have to actually move switches, you have to think and be a pilot a little bit, and yes you have to contend with the damn trim wheel.
Every bit of that sounds terrible.
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