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Old 07-11-2023, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by C340
Lets say I get a job offer this Friday and become a WB FO commuting from PDX to do global reserve in SFO or DEN or LAX. Could you take a stab at which of those three bases and which aircraft type (if I even have a say in that) would provide the best QOL?
The 777 going to new hires train has left the station. Pilots on property for 6 months were unable to get it on the last couple vacancies. You may have a chance of getting EWR 787 FO in indoc as it has been offered every once in a while, or get NB and get it or SFO 787 FO in a subsequent vacancy. If you get WB in SFO via this route, you will be commuting to reserve for a very long time. So to answer your question, you MAY get 787 WB in SFO eventually, then your QOL commuting to reserve will be bad. You won't hold WB in DEN or LAX your first year and by then, so many things may have changed it is unpredictable to give you a read on how QOL would be.

756 SFO and LAX on the other hand go more junior (756 SFO sometimes offered to new hires) and are not Global Reserve, just Basic Reserve in those bases.
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Old 07-11-2023, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TenaciousB
The 777 going to new hires train has left the station. Pilots on property for 6 months were unable to get it on the last couple vacancies. You may have a chance of getting EWR 787 FO in indoc as it has been offered every once in a while, or get NB and get it or SFO 787 FO in a subsequent vacancy. If you get WB in SFO via this route, you will be commuting to reserve for a very long time. So to answer your question, you MAY get 787 WB in SFO eventually, then your QOL commuting to reserve will be bad. You won't hold WB in DEN or LAX your first year and by then, so many things may have changed it is unpredictable to give you a read on how QOL would be.

756 SFO and LAX on the other hand go more junior (756 SFO sometimes offered to new hires) and are not Global Reserve, just Basic Reserve in those bases.
9 unfilled SFO 777 FO slots and 4 unfilled SFO 787 FO slots on today's snapshot, so maybe the next train is coming into the station. We will know for sure next week.
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Old 07-11-2023, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
9 unfilled SFO 777 FO slots and 4 unfilled SFO 787 FO slots on today's snapshot, so maybe the next train is coming into the station. We will know for sure next week.
When are aircraft assignments given to new hires?
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Old 07-11-2023, 11:34 AM
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When are aircraft assignments given to new hires?
Just after lunch on day one of indoc
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Old 07-11-2023, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
9 unfilled SFO 777 FO slots and 4 unfilled SFO 787 FO slots on today's snapshot, so maybe the next train is coming into the station. We will know for sure next week.
It's usually that way for the first few snapshots and then senior people put their bids in. Many do so on the very last day. At least that has happened the last 2 or 3 times. Anything can happen though.
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Old 07-11-2023, 01:08 PM
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It's usually that way for the first few snapshots and then senior people put their bids in. Many do so on the very last day. At least that has happened the last 2 or 3 times. Anything can happen though.
That usually what happens every bid. The final is what will help paint the picture of the trend. But I agree, WB offer to NH train has started to apply its brakes. If a WB is offered to a NH, it will likely be SFO or EWR/SFO 787.
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Old 07-11-2023, 05:02 PM
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That usually what happens every bid. The final is what will help paint the picture of the trend. But I agree, WB offer to NH train has started to apply its brakes. If a WB is offered to a NH, it will likely be SFO or EWR/SFO 787.
once that train stops, how long would it take a NH to get to a WB out of EWR?
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Old 07-11-2023, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickfire
Narrowbody pilots fly multiple legs, rest 12 hours, fly multiple legs, rest 12 hours, fly multiple legs home
Every time you fly a leg (double transiting a base) there’s an opportunity for trouble.
This is patently false.

There are plenty of trips that are rough, almost none are built like this, and even with delays and reassignments few are flown like this.

There is incredible variety in NB flying, at least at EWR: Alaska, CONUS, Caribbean, Central America, Canada, Mexico, Northern South America, and probably Europe soon. 2-leg 2-days with 25 hours off, yep; 6-leg 4-days with 35 hours off, yep; and 2-leg 1-days that pay 9+ hours, yep. There’s crap on every fleet, WB included, NB has crap too but with 6-12 months seniority it’s pretty dam good.
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Old 07-11-2023, 06:50 PM
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Old 07-11-2023, 09:15 PM
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My goal is QOL in DEN, and I know that's not going to happen right out of class. So here's what I'm looking at. Based on recent drops there is plenty of 737 and 320 FO spots. I've been eyeballing IAH 737 because it is an easy commute and would lead the path to DEN 737 FO fairly quickly. However, I've been contemplating SFO 320 because it is also an easy commute and I have family there so no crash pad while commuting.
Based on current trends how long to DEN 320 FO vs 737 FO? And how long to a line for each?
Sounds like the 320 flying might be a bit crappier as well?
To recap, just looking for QOL in DEN. Don't really care what I'm flying neccesarily.
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