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Old 05-31-2023, 02:09 PM
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Is there a WhatsApp/ telegram group chat for the 6/6 class?
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Old 06-02-2023, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nfpilot914
How long is it on average taking people to hear back after submitting an application? Thanks!
For what one data point is worth:

I applied Feb 24
Hogan invite May 16 (a little under 12 weeks wait)
Took the Hogan May 17
Interview invite May 18
Interview scheduled for Jun 6
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Old 06-02-2023, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickfire
756 trips out of EWR are mostly augmented and mostly 3-days/2 legs. 737 trips are much busier.

There’s an argument for doing 737 for a bit to learn the united system.

But setting that aside, it should be a quick move sfo>ewr/dca possibly even prior to ioe
737 is a pretty busy fleet at EWR. I can’t speak to 756, but after about 5 months on the 737 you’ll be able to get some really great trips, and a decent schedule that isn’t 85 hours unless you want it to be. Weird hearing these guys complain about not being able to trip drop, trade, pickup, etc. I do it 5-10 times a month with absolutely no issue. Part of that is fleet size at EWR, there are lots of pilots and trips in the mix, so that lends to better ability to do this.

My intent when I got here was to do the 737 for a couple years and then go to the 756. It’s been a good time, with awesome flexibility, time off, and great trips so I’ve stayed.
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Old 06-02-2023, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LJ Driver
737 is a pretty busy fleet at EWR. I can’t speak to 756, but after about 5 months on the 737 you’ll be able to get some really great trips, and a decent schedule that isn’t 85 hours unless you want it to be. Weird hearing these guys complain about not being able to trip drop, trade, pickup, etc. I do it 5-10 times a month with absolutely no issue. Part of that is fleet size at EWR, there are lots of pilots and trips in the mix, so that lends to better ability to do this.

My intent when I got here was to do the 737 for a couple years and then go to the 756. It’s been a good time, with awesome flexibility, time off, and great trips so I’ve stayed.
It’s the ability to do a straight drop, not bad day/worse day. The pool display is always negative except for a day here or there on the big pick… to include EWR 737 FO. As of 6/2, the entire month is negative. If you know how to bid to maximize the ability to trade into lesser days (e.g. mid-week 1-days later in the month), you can easily dump multiple days for days earlier in the month.
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Old 06-02-2023, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickfire
United’s public plan at present involves

1) organic growth
2) regional to mainline growth
3) a comparatively small number of retirements

Where we are in the hiring wave really depends how #1 and #2 play out over 2025-2030

The real lottery winners were the 2019-2021 hires. But 2023 still looks solidly middle of the wave, have a strong career.

do you think any one gets hired after 2023 not going to have a good career?
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Old 06-02-2023, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Plabelover
do you think any one gets hired after 2023 not going to have a good career?
United has hired over 4,000 pilots since hiring started post pandemic. There are just over 4,000 pilots set to retire between now and the end of 2030. One option is the economy tanks or Putin launches nukes and they could furlough and not hire for a long time. On the other hand, we have hundreds of airplanes on order. If a large portion becomes growth and we end up a 20,000+ pilot list, the wave will keep rolling for a long time. Plan for the worst and be surprised when you catch a break.

History shows this profession gets kicked in the nuts pretty hard about once a decade. We averted crisis pretty well in 2020 when most pilots thought they were going to be significantly impacted. Fortunately the repeated kicking in the nuts has created the shortage we’re in today.

TLDR version no one really knows but if you have a lot of years left you should have a decent career, but won’t see as many years in the left seat of a widebody as a 20 something hired in 2021.
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Old 06-02-2023, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by glassnpowder98
United has hired over 4,000 pilots since hiring started post pandemic. There are just over 4,000 pilots set to retire between now and the end of 2030. One option is the economy tanks or Putin launches nukes and they could furlough and not hire for a long time. On the other hand, we have hundreds of airplanes on order. If a large portion becomes growth and we end up a 20,000+ pilot list, the wave will keep rolling for a long time. Plan for the worst and be surprised when you catch a break.

History shows this profession gets kicked in the nuts pretty hard about once a decade. We averted crisis pretty well in 2020 when most pilots thought they were going to be significantly impacted. Fortunately the repeated kicking in the nuts has created the shortage we’re in today.

TLDR version no one really knows but if you have a lot of years left you should have a decent career, but won’t see as many years in the left seat of a widebody as a 20 something hired in 2021.
thank you very much for you input, as a student pilot I always like hearing what people that have been in the industry think
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Old 06-02-2023, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LJ Driver
737 is a pretty busy fleet at EWR. I can’t speak to 756, but after about 5 months on the 737 you’ll be able to get some really great trips, and a decent schedule that isn’t 85 hours unless you want it to be. Weird hearing these guys complain about not being able to trip drop, trade, pickup, etc. I do it 5-10 times a month with absolutely no issue. Part of that is fleet size at EWR, there are lots of pilots and trips in the mix, so that lends to better ability to do this.

My intent when I got here was to do the 737 for a couple years and then go to the 756. It’s been a good time, with awesome flexibility, time off, and great trips so I’ve stayed.
All I hear is people complain about the lack of flexibility. Looks like you’ve cracked the code though
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Old 06-03-2023, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Plabelover
do you think any one gets hired after 2023 not going to have a good career?

when United furloughs
the number is 20% otherwise is not worth doing it due to training cost
keep that in mind
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Old 06-03-2023, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Plabelover
do you think any one gets hired after 2023 not going to have a good career?
No. Assuming (big assumption) someone is willing to move, even spending years on NB reserve is a good career.

Aviation went through a lot in the 25-30 years after deregulation. Consolidation, bankruptcies, 9/11, age 65. There will always be economic cycles but those items were unusually difficult and unlikely to repeat. The reason people could be furloughed for 8 years was because there was a lot of fat to cut. Until the robots come… the fat is gone.

2023 is solidly in the middle of the wave. 2024 probably will be too. Second half of the decade probably more towards the tail. But junior guy at a major is still a fine job.
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