New Hire Classes and Drops
07-08-2018, 07:24 AM
#281
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We have grown our pilot ranks by 1600 pilots over the last 5 years. 3200 pilots total have been hired and recalled from furlough in the last 5 years. Thats 650 pilots a year going through Indoc.
07-08-2018, 07:40 AM
#282
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Why does United need to keep pace? We cancel less than a dozen flights a month for lack of crew.
We have grown our pilot ranks by 1600 pilots over the last 5 years. 3200 pilots total have been hired and recalled from furlough in the last 5 years. Thats 650 pilots a year going through Indoc.
We have grown our pilot ranks by 1600 pilots over the last 5 years. 3200 pilots total have been hired and recalled from furlough in the last 5 years. Thats 650 pilots a year going through Indoc.
07-08-2018, 07:59 AM
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Thanks for the fapa numbers. I didn’t mean to imply they needed to keep pace. I’m hoping to go to United and it’s nice to see they haven’t added over 30 percent of the current pilot force in the last five years like other airlines.
07-08-2018, 08:20 AM
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Good point we have hardly retired eye watering numbers. Even our peak retirement year in 2028 is only 725 pilots. United retirements are more spread out than the other airlines.
Total pilots off the list (death, retirement, termination):
2014: 400
2015: 318
2016: 320
2017: 346
Basically the furlough recalls have covered retirements 1:1. All pilots hired have been for growth.
Total pilots off the list (death, retirement, termination):
2014: 400
2015: 318
2016: 320
2017: 346
Basically the furlough recalls have covered retirements 1:1. All pilots hired have been for growth.
07-08-2018, 09:59 AM
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Hang in there! Get that chief pilot interview and LORS.
07-08-2018, 10:47 AM
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How did you deduce that? Are you saying that because you fit into that category? United hires across the entire spectrum. Classes have 50+ year olds down to wiz kids still in their 20's. Take the 600ish a year new hires, subtract the CPP and regional kids, that leaves roughly 300 a year for military. Doable...harder now that "darling Delta" isn't so darling anymore, since they've hired so many and those pilots want to come to UA now. Soon it will be UA in the hiring spot light.
Hang in there! Get that chief pilot interview and LORS.
Hang in there! Get that chief pilot interview and LORS.
Yes, I fall in that boat and was hired, but the hiring market isn’t what it was for retiring military even 6 months ago. I feel lucky to have gotten called when my peers are still listening to crickets (from everyone).
07-08-2018, 10:56 AM
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If you go to those other airlines, then that 30% is going to be ahead of you your entire career. United is still a few years off from its massive retirement wave.
07-08-2018, 11:12 AM
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With United's new hire classes composing of 55% CPP applicants and then throw in Military hires, getting a call from off the street is going to become extremely difficult.
07-09-2018, 11:15 AM
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Here’s the numbers... FAPA.aero | Pilot Hiring History - Monthly - Current Year
Worse if you’re an old, even current, retiring military guy, though, from the word on street.
Worse if you’re an old, even current, retiring military guy, though, from the word on street.
07-09-2018, 11:48 AM
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