New Hire Classes and Drops
#2731
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,318
I am probably in the minority here, but I feel like indoc is way to relaxed. Half the time everyone is in a zombie like state from the night prior. In all my 121 training I’ve never seen the FOM side of training so brushed off. Which also sets the tone for training going forward. I can’t tell you how many times when I went through Indoc our group was told “don’t worry about it we will do everything we can to get you through training, you’ll be fine.” Although, for the most part I see new hires doing well, with the experience level lacking what it used to be, I believe we need to change the mentality a little.
#2732
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 357
12 days off. 6 holy days off (theoretically untouchable), 1 flexible day off (can be disrupted for domestic or intl trip. 5 regular day offs (can be disrupted for intl trip). You get 6 HDOs in a row, then either 3 blocks of 2 days off or 2 blocks of 3 days off.
They can’t start a trip on your day off. It has to start on your regular reserve day and go into your FDO or RDO. They are theoretically only supposed to disrupt a day off if no one else is available to do the trip.
Everyone is on long call to start. 13 hours to departure. You are likely to be escalated to short call for some of your reserve days. 2.5 hours is short call out. There’s also field standby which is 4 hours at the airport.
If you live in base then Global Reserve isn’t bad. Commuting to it sucks. You don’t get used a whole lot. I think system wide the 777 FO had 35% reserve day usage in February. 787 FO was 25% I believe. So lots of sitting potentially.
They can’t start a trip on your day off. It has to start on your regular reserve day and go into your FDO or RDO. They are theoretically only supposed to disrupt a day off if no one else is available to do the trip.
Everyone is on long call to start. 13 hours to departure. You are likely to be escalated to short call for some of your reserve days. 2.5 hours is short call out. There’s also field standby which is 4 hours at the airport.
If you live in base then Global Reserve isn’t bad. Commuting to it sucks. You don’t get used a whole lot. I think system wide the 777 FO had 35% reserve day usage in February. 787 FO was 25% I believe. So lots of sitting potentially.
Edit: thank you for the answer to my question
#2733
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 49
So global reserve means they can do whatever they want with you on whichever days they choose with anywhere from a zero to 13 hour call out? If I’m even remotely understanding that then you folks seriously need a new contract with crap like that taken out.
Edit: thank you for the answer to my question
Edit: thank you for the answer to my question
They cannot start a trip on your day off. The trip has to start in your day on and go into your day off. Once that trip ends you are off and you get your days off restored. They can’t call you on your day off and force you to work. From my understanding, they only disrupt days off if there are 0 other people available for the trip.
Short call is a 2.5 hour call out. 14 hours a day. But you are still subject to FAR 117 rules. They can’t really call you at hour 12 and make you fly a trip. Not enough time. Any assigned unused short calls over 2 of them give you 1 hour of add pay. I was recently given 29 hours off during a reserve period. They released me from long call and put my on short call 3pm the next day. Once released you are free from duty till you start short call.
For example, a 7pm short call in SFO has maybe 4-8 flights they can do.
Field standby is 4 hours. After that you are immediately on long call. Right now, it seems to be rare. If on FSB a trip has to start within 5 hours of starting your FSB. So if you have FSB from 12-4 they could call you at 3 for a 4:30 trip. But if you make it to 4 then you are off.
If on long call you get released at 10am on your last day. 3pm if you next day is your one Flex day off.
If you live in base it’s great. If not then it sucks, but so does normal reserve. I know people on the 737 commuting to reserve and they haven’t flown for a month.
#2734
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 357
No…
They cannot start a trip on your day off. The trip has to start in your day on and go into your day off. Once that trip ends you are off and you get your days off restored. They can’t call you on your day off and force you to work. From my understanding, they only disrupt days off if there are 0 other people available for the trip.
Short call is a 2.5 hour call out. 14 hours a day. But you are still subject to FAR 117 rules. They can’t really call you at hour 12 and make you fly a trip. Not enough time. Any assigned unused short calls over 2 of them give you 1 hour of add pay. I was recently given 29 hours off during a reserve period. They released me from long call and put my on short call 3pm the next day. Once released you are free from duty till you start short call.
For example, a 7pm short call in SFO has maybe 4-8 flights they can do.
Field standby is 4 hours. After that you are immediately on long call. Right now, it seems to be rare. If on FSB a trip has to start within 5 hours of starting your FSB. So if you have FSB from 12-4 they could call you at 3 for a 4:30 trip. But if you make it to 4 then you are off.
If on long call you get released at 10am on your last day. 3pm if you next day is your one Flex day off.
If you live in base it’s great. If not then it sucks, but so does normal reserve. I know people on the 737 commuting to reserve and they haven’t flown for a month.
They cannot start a trip on your day off. The trip has to start in your day on and go into your day off. Once that trip ends you are off and you get your days off restored. They can’t call you on your day off and force you to work. From my understanding, they only disrupt days off if there are 0 other people available for the trip.
Short call is a 2.5 hour call out. 14 hours a day. But you are still subject to FAR 117 rules. They can’t really call you at hour 12 and make you fly a trip. Not enough time. Any assigned unused short calls over 2 of them give you 1 hour of add pay. I was recently given 29 hours off during a reserve period. They released me from long call and put my on short call 3pm the next day. Once released you are free from duty till you start short call.
For example, a 7pm short call in SFO has maybe 4-8 flights they can do.
Field standby is 4 hours. After that you are immediately on long call. Right now, it seems to be rare. If on FSB a trip has to start within 5 hours of starting your FSB. So if you have FSB from 12-4 they could call you at 3 for a 4:30 trip. But if you make it to 4 then you are off.
If on long call you get released at 10am on your last day. 3pm if you next day is your one Flex day off.
If you live in base it’s great. If not then it sucks, but so does normal reserve. I know people on the 737 commuting to reserve and they haven’t flown for a month.
#2735
I’ve been on global reserve as a Captain for over 2 years… with another 2 years in the right seat of the 777 many many moons ago. Global reserve isn’t as horrible as many on here try to portray. Can it be better? Of course... always can have improvements. Do they roll every day off? No… an average month I have maybe one or two days max moved. Should pilots be compensated for rolling days off? Most definitely. Based on all my conversations with other captains and FOs the linchpin to what makes global reserve horrible is being a commuter. If you live within 2.5 hours of your base then life is pretty good… if you have to fly in then it sucks real bad.
#2736
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2023
Posts: 142
I’ve been on global reserve as a Captain for over 2 years… with another 2 years in the right seat of the 777 many many moons ago. Global reserve isn’t as horrible as many on here try to portray. Can it be better? Of course... always can have improvements. Do they roll every day off? No… an average month I have maybe one or two days max moved. Should pilots be compensated for rolling days off? Most definitely. Based on all my conversations with other captains and FOs the linchpin to what makes global reserve horrible is being a commuter. If you live within 2.5 hours of your base then life is pretty good… if you have to fly in then it sucks real bad.
#2737
yes… 18 days on reserve and 12 days off… 6 of which can’t be moved. On average I work way less on global reserve than working a line… have to be on SC 5-6 times out of the month but able to golf these days carrying my phone since I live local.
#2738
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2022
Posts: 90
I’ve been on global reserve as a Captain for over 2 years… with another 2 years in the right seat of the 777 many many moons ago. Global reserve isn’t as horrible as many on here try to portray. Can it be better? Of course... always can have improvements. Do they roll every day off? No… an average month I have maybe one or two days max moved. Should pilots be compensated for rolling days off? Most definitely. Based on all my conversations with other captains and FOs the linchpin to what makes global reserve horrible is being a commuter. If you live within 2.5 hours of your base then life is pretty good… if you have to fly in then it sucks real bad.
#2739
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 130
Related to that, once one is able to hold a line, are out-of-base pickups a thing, or are you stuck with whatever is available in your particular base?
#2740
yes… after 1pm local base time you can call crew desk and pickup a trip at another base. Their are some restrictions like Guam and flying to Asia I heard… but never tried.
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