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03-26-2023, 06:51 AM

#2671

ObiOne

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Brickfire and Thumbsup, that was the exact kind of info I was looking for. Thank you

03-26-2023, 09:57 AM

#2672

TransWorld

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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp

These are actual numbers for the last 1000 new hires.

Average age: 36
Median age: 35
Range: 24-62

At 25, you will be among the bottom and get the scraps, which may be just what you want.

At 25, you can look forward to being a WB CA.

03-26-2023, 11:01 AM

#2673

ComanchePilot

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Originally Posted by Half wing

someone 25 years old will be in the bottom 10 percent seniority for their class.

In the last four classes, the youngest member was either 23 or 24 years old. Typically there are only two or three people under the age of 25.

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being that junior in class you will probably get the 756/777/787 in EWR. You have to be senior to hold 737 or 320 in class.

Based on the past month, this is incorrect. There are often only two or three 777 seats, plus zero to two 787 seats. In the last few classes, the WB seats were all taken by pilots in the top 2/3 of the class. In the feb 28 class, the youngest five pilots all got assigned the 737.

Every week is different. Some weeks have 756 seats available, some don’t. Some weeks the 777 seats are SFO only, but some weeks there is EWR777 available as well. What you have to choose from will depend on the preferences of those older than you in your class. Just make a preference list, and then wait til day 1 and see.

03-26-2023, 01:33 PM

#2674

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Originally Posted by Brickfire

Currently about 80% system seniority. Lineholder is pushing 50%

what does this translate to in terms of time on property for Den787?

03-26-2023, 03:30 PM

#2675

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Originally Posted by aviator1998

what does this translate to in terms of time on property for Den787?

Current rate two years give or take. Could change obviously.

03-26-2023, 04:01 PM

#2676

Brickfire

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aviator1998

what does this translate to in terms of time on property for Den787?

Agree with above.

BUT the category is small enough that time to hold will jump around a lot. One guy gets divorced, another guy moves to EWR because his kid starts college, etc ... or maybe they don't

Also .... the junior guy corresponds more or less with the post-covid hiring binge. It could take two years to get six months further along the hire list.

03-26-2023, 04:12 PM

#2677

AH1Toaster

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Originally Posted by aviator1998

what does this translate to in terms of time on property for Den787?

The answer was in post 2668.

03-26-2023, 04:55 PM

#2678

aviator1998

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Originally Posted by AH1Toaster

The answer was in post 2668.

Sorry, thanks….didn’t see that. Where’s the best place to see what fleets have bases in each city and what kind of flying they do? Specifically DEN

03-26-2023, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aviator1998

Sorry, thanks….didn’t see that. Where’s the best place to see what fleets have bases in each city and what kind of flying they do? Specifically DEN

DEN787 currently does LHR, FRA, MUC, and NRT.

03-26-2023, 05:17 PM

#2680

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Originally Posted by aviator1998

Sorry, thanks….didn’t see that. Where’s the best place to see what fleets have bases in each city and what kind of flying they do? Specifically DEN

DEN has everything except the 777. The 787 goes to NRT, LHR, FRA, and MUC. The 756 is exclusively 757 and does mostly Hawaii 15 hour 3 days with an unaugmented 6:45 redeye home, plus some domestic flying. The 320 and 737 are just the standard NB grind.