New Hire Classes and Drops
03-25-2023, 06:36 PM
#2663
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Joined APC: Mar 2005
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Mid-20's to late 50's. Varies from class to class. As for the aircraft, it's possible to get in indoc, but it depends on what they are offering. Otherwise, possibly at the next vacancy bid or two. It's too hard to predict beyond that, but should be fairly fast.
03-25-2023, 06:47 PM
#2664
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2022
Posts: 75
Thanks for that. Is it more concentrated at the low end of the age range? It seems like they have younger classes than other legacies, but I could be wrong.
03-25-2023, 07:08 PM
#2665
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 291
This data point is a year old, but the average in my class was probably 36-37. Being 30 would have put you about 80% of the way down the list, and I think our most junior was 25.
03-25-2023, 07:10 PM
#2666
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: 787 right
Posts: 504
Just to clarify, you are senior to everyone older than you hired seven days later. Who cares if your number 20 or 30 in class when you have 4000 junior to you in 2 years. Every class is random, roughly half retired military, half regional. You may be on average, someone 25 years old will be in the bottom 10 percent seniority for their class. So being that junior in class you will probably get the 756/777/787 in EWR. You have to be senior to hold 737 or 320 in class. Probably the average age other legacies hire is within a year or two of UA.
03-25-2023, 07:29 PM
#2667
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2022
Posts: 75
Just to clarify, you are senior to everyone older than you hired seven days later. Who cares if your number 20 or 30 in class when you have 4000 junior to you in 2 years. Every class is random, roughly half retired military, half regional. You may be on average, someone 25 years old will be in the bottom 10 percent seniority for their class. So being that junior in class you will probably get the 756/777/787 in EWR. You have to be senior to hold 737 or 320 in class. Probably the average age other legacies hire is within a year or two of UA.
And thanks for that info.
03-26-2023, 04:18 AM
#2668
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2017
Position: EWR 737 FO
Posts: 71
It's a smaller group with just 100 people. The junior DEN 787 FO was a spring 2022 hire. The junior line holder at 80% seniority is a 2016 hire. A realistic outlook is that you will spend a few years waiting on your bid to make the cut in a vacancy. You will spend the next 5+ years watching people with higher seniority bid ahead of you on the list.
03-26-2023, 04:29 AM
#2669
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Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 856
That number is still a relatively small fraction of all hires, well under half and probably well under a quarter.
There are currently a few hundred pilots on property with 2060's retirement dates. Gets toward a few thousand when looking at 2050 onward, but those are very 2050/2051 heavy.
03-26-2023, 04:36 AM
#2670
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 2,501
These are actual numbers for the last 1000 new hires.
Average age: 36
Median age: 35
Range: 24-62
At 25, you will be among the bottom and get the scraps, which may be just what you want.
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