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Old 05-02-2018, 03:24 PM
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I was a furlough return in February. Back then (maybe not now), my class, and I believe other classes before/after mine, were limited to about 10 furlough returns. ie, approx. 10 furlough returns showed up on Monday, then about 30 fresh new hires showed up on Tuesday >>> = 40 new students in the TK pipeline. May, or may not, be the same arrangement in June.
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Actually a buddy of my best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this pilot who's flying with another pilot who heard there will be classes every two weeks of 40 plus pilots. I guess they're getting serious...

In reality, as a poolie, at this point I'm just excited for any good news. At least there is some movement in a positive direction it would seem.
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Originally Posted by FGHJKL
I was a furlough return in February. Back then (maybe not now), my class, and I believe other classes before/after mine, were limited to about 10 furlough returns. ie, approx. 10 furlough returns showed up on Monday, then about 30 fresh new hires showed up on Tuesday >>> = 40 new students in the TK pipeline. May, or may not, be the same arrangement in June.
That is strange that they capped the amount of furlough returns. I thought furloughs had first right of refusal to all open spots?
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
That is strange that they capped the amount of furlough returns. I thought furloughs had first right of refusal to all open spots?
That's the ratio they are doing now. 10/30 for returnees/new-hires. Same for the June class. Once they hit 10, no room for other returnees. Cutoff for a class return is still 30 days out, to get one of the 10 slots. You cannot bump a new-hire out within the 30 days of class start.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
That is strange that they capped the amount of furlough returns. I thought furloughs had first right of refusal to all open spots?
I don't know the legalese. It didn't really matter when there were classes every other week (like when I returned), but could be more significant if classes are less frequent. When I called to schedule myself (about 40 days before class start date), I was told there were only a few more recall slots available in the particular date I preferred...but I doubt any returnees were postponed to the next class.
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
That's the ratio they are doing now. 10/30 for returnees/new-hires. Same for the June class. Once they hit 10, no room for other returnees. Cutoff for a class return is still 30 days out, to get one of the 10 slots. You cannot bump a new-hire out within the 30 days of class start.
That doesn't seem fair considering they are going to start throwing pilots off the list starting this fall.......Do the furloughs have to be scheduled for a class by the 10 year mark or physically in class?
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Unfortunately the company writes the rules on this... once someone selects furlough recall bypass they are now at the mercy of the company. If united stopped hiring until the 10 years expired they could leave guys/gals on the street without any recourse. They have to accept and start class before the drop dead date...
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Tough double edged sword. the company must want to drain the hiring pool and get people in classes so the people they just spent time and money hiring don’t go to southwest and delta? Has that been happening a lot?
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If you gave the adequate notice, more than 30 days, if I remember correctly, as a furlough return, for an advertised class date and they said anything other than welcome back my next call would be to the UALMEC. If you need the phone number let me know!
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Originally Posted by DaMnad
If you gave the adequate notice, more than 30 days, if I remember correctly, as a furlough return, for an advertised class date and they said anything other than welcome back my next call would be to the UALMEC. If you need the phone number let me know!
ABSOLUTELY!!!!!

Once a furloughed-bypass pilot notifies the company of their desire to re-enter the recall process (7-E) he shall be eligible for the next scheduled recall. This means that is if it is more than 30 days from a class then he/she is eligible for that class. The only way that the recallee doesn't get that class is if it is "full" with more senior recallees.

If they try to limit the recall class because of some random class size or convenience to United reason, and then put new hires in a class the next day that is a gross violation of both the letter and the spirit of the contract.

They cannot give out an unfilled vacancy to a new hire if their are pilots that have not been offered recall. (8-C-8) Once you have notified the company of your intent to come off of bypass, you are eligible for recall and must be recalled prior to any new hire being given an assignment.

Hopefully they are not playing fast and loose here. If any furloughee notifies the company by today of their intent to return, they definitely should be in the June class!! If not, then there should only be furlough returns in that class, not new hires.
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