That Guy 74

SENIORITY IS EVERYTHING.

I don't know what you have going on, but sell your left nut if you have to in order to make that August class.

You'll thank me later.

BobbyLeeSwagger

I skipped a class in February of 2020! Got me 9 months of unemployment 👍

Wildflyin

and how many seniority spots did you lose due to that? Unless it’s an absolute pressing matter, take the class and the seniority for this job


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jones3517

Different situation for me and looking for any thoughts/advice. Got a CJO back in Oct 19 but COVID put a a quick end to my airline dreams before I could make it to indoc and I came back to military. Fortunately, it looks like United is still going to honor my CJO when I can get out (again) in the next several months. My last email from the hiring team said to reach out about a month prior to getting out and they would work a class for me, but the way things are, I feel like that's a little late. I'd love to get in the first class that I'm available for (start of Feb 23), and don't want to wait to Jan to ask the question only to learn I have to wait to late spring/early summer to get in. Not completely sure how long the wait is at the moment, but would it be a foul for me to email them in the fall asking for spot in a Feb class? Don't want to step on any toes before I'm even in the door, but at the same time, I don't want to sit around when there was something I could have done to get started earlier. Thoughts? Recommendations? Thanks!

82spukram

I would follow along here and others places (Facebook new hire page) When you see or hear about late January early February classes being assigned. Email then.

ThumbsUp

If you already have paperwork in for a separation/retirement date, there is no time like the present to let them know. They don’t have classes that far out, though, so don’t expect a date that they don’t have. Of course, this may be a golden opportunity to get the best setup that you might not have had before. Did you have CJOs everywhere else also? You likely would today.

cactipilot

Hey, as a military guy I can say waiting and losing a few seniority spots is not the end of the world. DO NOT DO THIS (take the earlier class) IF YOU LOSE TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY FOR SUMMER. This job is in many respects more arduous than dealing with military deployment cycles so please think twice. You will most definitely hear many people say what is considered a commandment to them : "Seniority is everything" but hey, you're coming to a 14k plus pilot airline. a few classes will not make a difference, and may even benefit your initial assignment in some way which you won't know until it happens. Enjoy a break, especially if you get to do things you want to do. You will see being a civilian professional aircrew member brings with it a substantial loss of independence and scheduling certainty for a while.

threeighteen

This is the worst advice ^^


1 class can make the difference between getting furloughed or not getting furloughed. For some, it made the difference between getting furloughed only once instead of twice. It can make the difference between holding WB CA, or not. It can make the difference when it comes to getting above the G line in the left seat of a widebody. It can make the difference between getting Christmas, Thanksgiving, birthdays, etc off.

Get there fast, take it slow. Take the first newhire class you can, then delay upgrade if you want, but don't delay the day that your seniority starts.

BlackOcelot

Your experience must have been much different than mine. Every deployment was more frustrating and painful than the one before it.

How can being an airline pilot that gets paid an insane amount of money to work half of the month that stays in nice hotels even compare to deploying to a combat zone on the other side of world to sleep in a tent and eat MREs?

C11DCA

well said.

I put my name on the list to move up from my awarded class date if any opening in earlier classes became available. A few weeks later UAL asked if I wanted to move up a week. I said yes. Because of that I didn’t get furloughed as part of the post 9/11 furloughs.

life on the bottom wasn’t fun, but it also wasn’t furloughed.