New Hire Classes and Drops
03-09-2018, 02:12 PM
#121
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: FO
Posts: 266
Welcome new hires!
Pro tip for the LAX bound: Great taco trucks between Sepulveda Blvd and Sepulveda Expressway on Manchester (just west of the employee parking lot).
03-09-2018, 09:11 PM
#124
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 4,785
03-09-2018, 11:20 PM
#125
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 6
03-10-2018, 03:56 AM
#126
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 162
I believe the interviews stopped from Jun to Nov. I had a Dec 17 interview but had to resked to Feb of this year.
03-10-2018, 05:52 AM
#127
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: 30 West
Posts: 149
I was in a meeting in ORD this week and Scott Kirby came in the room and said he had just inked a deal with Easy Jet for 21 used Airbus 319’s. Howard Attarian said possibility 30 more. Over all we have 100 plus firm airplanes being delivered over the next 3 years with none being parked. I would say that is growth.
All management explained the hiring numbers being the way that they are because......
1. We have been a seasonal airline. We fly a ton in the summer and almost shutdown in Jan & Feb. we are going to level that out.
2. Parking the 747-400 was the equivalent of hiring a years worth of pilots at an aggressive rate. The Training center was unprepared for this and are just recovering now. The last of the 400 pilots are going through training now.
3. The 4-6% growth is ASM’s (available seat miles) not growth of airplanes or pilots. The growth number that we want to hear, airplanes and pilots equates to 2 1/2-3% at the max. The ASM growth will be achieved through flying our planes more. An example was given that there are 9 banks a day in ORD but only during 3 or 4 of the 9 banks are the gates completely occupied. They want to fill all the gaps and keep the airplanes moving not sitting. That does mean more pilots because of more flying.
4. United hasn’t hit the big retirement numbers just yet. Delta and American has. We are only retiring at the most 400 and maybe a few more on medical. We should start to see the hiring numbers pick up soon.
On the positive side... I did hear one management pilot say to expect 3 year Capts in the not too distant future based on our aircraft orders.
None of this is my opinion. I’m passing along what I heard from some of UAL’s top management.
All management explained the hiring numbers being the way that they are because......
1. We have been a seasonal airline. We fly a ton in the summer and almost shutdown in Jan & Feb. we are going to level that out.
2. Parking the 747-400 was the equivalent of hiring a years worth of pilots at an aggressive rate. The Training center was unprepared for this and are just recovering now. The last of the 400 pilots are going through training now.
3. The 4-6% growth is ASM’s (available seat miles) not growth of airplanes or pilots. The growth number that we want to hear, airplanes and pilots equates to 2 1/2-3% at the max. The ASM growth will be achieved through flying our planes more. An example was given that there are 9 banks a day in ORD but only during 3 or 4 of the 9 banks are the gates completely occupied. They want to fill all the gaps and keep the airplanes moving not sitting. That does mean more pilots because of more flying.
4. United hasn’t hit the big retirement numbers just yet. Delta and American has. We are only retiring at the most 400 and maybe a few more on medical. We should start to see the hiring numbers pick up soon.
On the positive side... I did hear one management pilot say to expect 3 year Capts in the not too distant future based on our aircraft orders.
None of this is my opinion. I’m passing along what I heard from some of UAL’s top management.
03-10-2018, 06:03 AM
#128
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 756 left
Posts: 771
I was in a meeting in ORD this week and Scott Kirby came in the room and said he had just inked a deal with Easy Jet for 21 used Airbus 319’s. Howard Attarian said possibility 30 more. Over all we have 100 plus firm airplanes being delivered over the next 3 years with none being parked. I would say that is growth.
Edit: That came off the wrong way. Of course they're going to spread propaganda. They just need an audience. Especially going into Section 6.
03-10-2018, 06:15 AM
#129
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: 30 West
Posts: 149
Which part was the propaganda? The new 21 319’s from EasyJet sounded pretty good to me. 120-150 airplanes over the next 3 years sounds good as well. 😊
03-10-2018, 06:26 AM
#130
New Hire
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 3
I was in a meeting in ORD this week and Scott Kirby came in the room and said he had just inked a deal with Easy Jet for 21 used Airbus 319’s. Howard Attarian said possibility 30 more. Over all we have 100 plus firm airplanes being delivered over the next 3 years with none being parked. I would say that is growth.
All management explained the hiring numbers being the way that they are because......
1. We have been a seasonal airline. We fly a ton in the summer and almost shutdown in Jan & Feb. we are going to level that out.
2. Parking the 747-400 was the equivalent of hiring a years worth of pilots at an aggressive rate. The Training center was unprepared for this and are just recovering now. The last of the 400 pilots are going through training now.
3. The 4-6% growth is ASM’s (available seat miles) not growth of airplanes or pilots. The growth number that we want to hear, airplanes and pilots equates to 2 1/2-3% at the max. The ASM growth will be achieved through flying our planes more. An example was given that there are 9 banks a day in ORD but only during 3 or 4 of the 9 banks are the gates completely occupied. They want to fill all the gaps and keep the airplanes moving not sitting. That does mean more pilots because of more flying.
4. United hasn’t hit the big retirement numbers just yet. Delta and American has. We are only retiring at the most 400 and maybe a few more on medical. We should start to see the hiring numbers pick up soon.
On the positive side... I did hear one management pilot say to expect 3 year Capts in the not too distant future based on our aircraft orders.
None of this is my opinion. I’m passing along what I heard from some of UAL’s top management.
All management explained the hiring numbers being the way that they are because......
1. We have been a seasonal airline. We fly a ton in the summer and almost shutdown in Jan & Feb. we are going to level that out.
2. Parking the 747-400 was the equivalent of hiring a years worth of pilots at an aggressive rate. The Training center was unprepared for this and are just recovering now. The last of the 400 pilots are going through training now.
3. The 4-6% growth is ASM’s (available seat miles) not growth of airplanes or pilots. The growth number that we want to hear, airplanes and pilots equates to 2 1/2-3% at the max. The ASM growth will be achieved through flying our planes more. An example was given that there are 9 banks a day in ORD but only during 3 or 4 of the 9 banks are the gates completely occupied. They want to fill all the gaps and keep the airplanes moving not sitting. That does mean more pilots because of more flying.
4. United hasn’t hit the big retirement numbers just yet. Delta and American has. We are only retiring at the most 400 and maybe a few more on medical. We should start to see the hiring numbers pick up soon.
On the positive side... I did hear one management pilot say to expect 3 year Capts in the not too distant future based on our aircraft orders.
None of this is my opinion. I’m passing along what I heard from some of UAL’s top management.
Thanks for taking the time to post this info. I think the last 2-3 years we have had a lot of excess slack in the system. Add in the 747 pilots and we were really over staffed. As we work through this slack I think hiring will pick up.
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