New Hire Classes and Drops
#1201
I think for most of us, the goal at BI and probation for that matter was to not stick out. So the middle ground as far as dress goes, would be slacks/nice chinos and a button up shirt.
on the more formal end, some dudes wore suits/sport coats all the way through BI, and on the informal end, some guys wore khakis and polos. The women in my class (all 2) erred on the more formal side...But I have no idea what the equivalent would be for feminine clothing
once you get to sim, on probation I’d be conservative and avoid jeans or non-collared shirts, but khakis and a polo would be completely normal
on the more formal end, some dudes wore suits/sport coats all the way through BI, and on the informal end, some guys wore khakis and polos. The women in my class (all 2) erred on the more formal side...But I have no idea what the equivalent would be for feminine clothing
once you get to sim, on probation I’d be conservative and avoid jeans or non-collared shirts, but khakis and a polo would be completely normal
#1203
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Is there a wing ceremony or some kind of formal event that happens where new hires wear suits and have a banquet with guests? I think I’ve seen pictures online in the past of new hire classes in suits standing on stairs. Might not be the same airline though
#1206
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There is a winging ceremony, most people in my class didn’t invite anyone, however you are allowed to invite who you like. I wouldn’t bring kids. It happens at the end of Indoc. We decided as a class how we wanted to look for the photo and decided on suits. All the info I just gave is about 6 years old though so take it with a grain of salt.
#1207
For all the people asking about training on a specific type. You’ll get a training syllabus, it literally tells you what to study and where to find what to study in the manual for each and every day. If you simply read and look up the material it tells you to read you’ll have no problems.
The training environment is all about learning and getting you through with the best understanding you can possibly have of your new airplane. Instructors are helpful and you shouldn’t find any stump the dummy style training. If you’ve got a question ask it! There are no stupid questions.
Here is the training breakdown after indoc;
Systems + a systems validation.
Procedures done in a fixed base non motion sim + a procedures validation
Maneuvers in the full motion sim + a maneuvers validation.
The final phase is LOFT phase then your final evaluation is the Line Oriented Evaluation.
If you need additional training the stop points are the validations. You’ll receive additional training as much as you need after a validation. Once you’re caught up you continue moving through training. By the time you get to your LOE it should be the easiest thing you’ve done in the sim. You’ll be over prepared for the LOE.
Just a note on the difference between training and validations. Training is training the instructor will teach and explain and show. Validations are not a training session. The evaluator will simply watch and evaluate with very minimal if any instruction. The job of an evaluator is to see if you meet the standards and will be able to succeed in the next training block.
If you need additional training THAT IS NOT A FAILURE! You won’t be washed out or chastised. You’ll be trained to proficiency and then move back into the training flow.
I was an instructor/evaluator off and on for a total of 13 years. In all that time I’ve had maybe three crews that needed additional training on a qual maneuvers validation. And maybe that many who needed additional training at the end of the loft phase.
The biggest area that I saw additional training events was on the procedures phase on the 756. When I was teaching on it the program was not set up for new hires, Back then if you didn’t already know how to work the 756 FMC you were going to need some additional training. I’m guessing that has changed.
And just BTW everybody that got additional training went on to pass the course with no problems. The training at UAL is set up for success and learning. You’ve got to some serious personality flaws to wash out of training here.
The training environment is all about learning and getting you through with the best understanding you can possibly have of your new airplane. Instructors are helpful and you shouldn’t find any stump the dummy style training. If you’ve got a question ask it! There are no stupid questions.
Here is the training breakdown after indoc;
Systems + a systems validation.
Procedures done in a fixed base non motion sim + a procedures validation
Maneuvers in the full motion sim + a maneuvers validation.
The final phase is LOFT phase then your final evaluation is the Line Oriented Evaluation.
If you need additional training the stop points are the validations. You’ll receive additional training as much as you need after a validation. Once you’re caught up you continue moving through training. By the time you get to your LOE it should be the easiest thing you’ve done in the sim. You’ll be over prepared for the LOE.
Just a note on the difference between training and validations. Training is training the instructor will teach and explain and show. Validations are not a training session. The evaluator will simply watch and evaluate with very minimal if any instruction. The job of an evaluator is to see if you meet the standards and will be able to succeed in the next training block.
If you need additional training THAT IS NOT A FAILURE! You won’t be washed out or chastised. You’ll be trained to proficiency and then move back into the training flow.
I was an instructor/evaluator off and on for a total of 13 years. In all that time I’ve had maybe three crews that needed additional training on a qual maneuvers validation. And maybe that many who needed additional training at the end of the loft phase.
The biggest area that I saw additional training events was on the procedures phase on the 756. When I was teaching on it the program was not set up for new hires, Back then if you didn’t already know how to work the 756 FMC you were going to need some additional training. I’m guessing that has changed.
And just BTW everybody that got additional training went on to pass the course with no problems. The training at UAL is set up for success and learning. You’ve got to some serious personality flaws to wash out of training here.
#1208
There is a winging ceremony, most people in my class didn’t invite anyone, however you are allowed to invite who you like. I wouldn’t bring kids. It happens at the end of Indoc. We decided as a class how we wanted to look for the photo and decided on suits. All the info I just gave is about 6 years old though so take it with a grain of salt.
#1210
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 864
ID picture is on day 1. Wear, or change into, the shirt you want on your ID.
Wings ceremony is at the end of the second week. Class and individual pictures are taken. Wear what you want for those pics.
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