Originally Posted by UALinIAH

For me the QOL on those days off is MUCH better as a NB CA. I did 15 yrs as a WB FO. When I was in my 30’s it was fun. As I approached 50 I was completely done with it. I’ll take a few less days off but for me the days off I have are much more fulfilling.

Originally Posted by Zenofzin

I agree 100%. 3 years in a widebody was enough for me, left seat is fun, love sleeping at night and I do feel good when I get home. It’s mid Jan, haven’t been de iced once yet, haven’t waited for a gate. Great hotels lots of good layovers.

Originally Posted by Sunvox

Lucky for me the movement on the bus in EWR has been ridiculous in the last 6 months so much so that as of this bid I am 31% and I live only 60 miles from EWR and LGA (oddly enough I'm 30% on 777FO). Also as a 777FO, I never once picked up senior manning and I have always bid a min time line so in my particular case the combination of January 2018 pay raise plus the bump to captain will end up being a sizable increase in pay. Without a doubt I could work 80 something hours as a 777FO and make the same or perhaps even more, but 2 factors out weighed everything:

1) On my last trip (and this is so typical in EWR) I'm coming into Brussels descending to 2000 feet on a base leg perpendicular to the GS and the green ring shows I'm going to level off about 15 miles from the airport and my speed is 220 and the captain is telling me I'm not gonna make it because "You're on the glide path and you need to get down faster." - I am SOOOO tired of idiots telling me how to fly. (The same captain also got into an argument with me over taking the trash bag back to the galley )

2) As I said I HATE going to work on day one and staying up all night then taking a 4 hour nap from 6AM to 10AM body time and finally that evening going to sleep at 5PM body clock only to wake up at midnight body clock and work 'til the next afternoon. That, for me, is over.

However, I appreciate your comments as they mirror what my buddy on the 73 says so I hope I am going into this with "eyes wide open" knowing that day to day operations in the world of domestic NB will be no cake walk especially at a base where the majority of my FOs will be new hires, but thats where I'm hoping the bus will be a little more forgiving as my perception is that it's slightly easier to manage overall than the multiple personalities in the 73 fleet. Anyways, I'll let you know how it's going in July, and thanks for the tips!!

Anybody got a good training video or book for the bus??

Originally Posted by Probe

I flew my first 9 years at United sitting next to 85 hires. I can't go back to WB FO because of that. The memory is burned into my brain. Being and FO wouldn't bother me, but the WB Caps hired in 85 (+ in 83) would.

Congrats on your choice. Now you have to live with it!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Sunvox

or they put their hand on the flap lever to subtly tell me it's time to extend flaps,

Originally Posted by RSRVWINDSURFR

Am I the only one who waits as long as safely possible to start hanging stuff out when flying with these types? Watching them squirm out of the corner of my eye is most satisfying!

Originally Posted by RSRVWINDSURFR

Am I the only one who waits as long as safely possible to start hanging stuff out when flying with these types? Watching them squirm out of the corner of my eye is most satisfying!

Originally Posted by Master of FiFi

*hand on flap lever* "Let's decrease the deck angle. Flying around at 7 degrees ANU is just too uncomfortable..."

Airplane starts rumbling due to excessive amount of flaps.

Originally Posted by Sunvox

My technique exactly



I'm a huge proponent of getting the nose down with flaps 15 on the 777 when tooling around at 3000 feet in New Jersey at 180 knots, but if I'm in a constant descent at 220 I really don't see a need to go to flaps 5. Thats the kind of silliness some jokers just don't get. In general I agree that flying around in a high nose up attitude is unpleasant for me, but if it's within limits and a conscious choice then it's technique and putting your hand on the flap handle to express your opinion on that technique is REALLY bad CLR. If you prefer nose down then say something verbally. but remember it's TECHNIQUE.

Originally Posted by Sunvox

There's no going back now . . . Guess I should start brushing up on my French

Interesting, looking over the last couple bids WBFO is starting to go more senior than NBCAP in some places. Honestly after a decade of night flying to far away places, I'm done. I get the allure, but honestly I think that WB stuff takes it's toll on the body.

Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald

And now you get to develop your own technique for all those new copilots that don't know anything or how to fly big planes. Congrats and have fun with it.

Originally Posted by bigfatdaddy

Good luck! Fifi is a very comfortable office.....been a few years since I last flew her, but enjoyed the experience. When I have had my fill of the WB life I hope to go back to Fifi myself.......Congrats!