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10-22-2017, 10:59 AM
#51
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Only 37 RJs have left in a 7 year period. Kirby has already brought back most of the 50 seaters. The CPAs have already been signed. Wait for the 2018 fleet plan you'll see.
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10-22-2017, 12:31 PM
#52
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Year end Rj count for 2017 is 21 jets higher than year end 2016 according to the latest Investor Update on United.com. But we are netting 5 additional mainline jets in the same period...so we got that going for us...which is nice.
10-23-2017, 06:55 AM
#53
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Thanks for posting what you could of the meeting. Good stuff to hear. I was frankly quite pleased when our stock tanked yesterday after an earnings beat. It means that investors sense that current management is not running the operation solely to appease their desire for short term profit. That's how we behind in the first place.
We desperately need more domestic capacity. There are many reason's DAL is eating our lunch, but that's the biggest one. For YEARS under poor leadership we kept shifting more towards international and less domestic, obviously forgetting that you need the domestic to FEED the international. Balanced is good. I like the direction OM and KB are headed. I share your optimism. For the first time since the mid-90's we have a team that genuinely seems to want to run a great airline.
We desperately need more domestic capacity. There are many reason's DAL is eating our lunch, but that's the biggest one. For YEARS under poor leadership we kept shifting more towards international and less domestic, obviously forgetting that you need the domestic to FEED the international. Balanced is good. I like the direction OM and KB are headed. I share your optimism. For the first time since the mid-90's we have a team that genuinely seems to want to run a great airline.
---Decreasing PRASM and increasing CASM for the second straight year.
---The lowest operating margins of the top 6 US airlines by market share for the 3rd year in a row.
---No guidance offered as to when the above trends may improve.
I'd say whether your view is short or long term, the above is troubling and casts serious doubt about the ability of this management team to get us off the bottom.
10-23-2017, 07:17 AM
#54
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The direction right now is:
---Decreasing PRASM and increasing CASM for the second straight year.
---The lowest operating margins of the top 6 US airlines by market share for the 3rd year in a row.
---No guidance offered as to when the above trends may improve.
I'd say whether your view is short or long term, the above is troubling and casts serious doubt about the ability of this management team to get us off the bottom.
---Decreasing PRASM and increasing CASM for the second straight year.
---The lowest operating margins of the top 6 US airlines by market share for the 3rd year in a row.
---No guidance offered as to when the above trends may improve.
I'd say whether your view is short or long term, the above is troubling and casts serious doubt about the ability of this management team to get us off the bottom.
10-23-2017, 07:21 AM
#55
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10-23-2017, 09:49 AM
#56
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Easy Chief, think Tilton and friends did quite a bit more. Smallsak was a complete d-bag who completely blew our post merger prospects but some fairly mortal wounds were inflicted well prior to his tenure.
10-23-2017, 12:15 PM
#57
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The direction right now is:
---Decreasing PRASM and increasing CASM for the second straight year.
---The lowest operating margins of the top 6 US airlines by market share for the 3rd year in a row.
---No guidance offered as to when the above trends may improve.
I'd say whether your view is short or long term, the above is troubling and casts serious doubt about the ability of this management team to get us off the bottom.
---Decreasing PRASM and increasing CASM for the second straight year.
---The lowest operating margins of the top 6 US airlines by market share for the 3rd year in a row.
---No guidance offered as to when the above trends may improve.
I'd say whether your view is short or long term, the above is troubling and casts serious doubt about the ability of this management team to get us off the bottom.
Obviously I'm being sarcastic, but that's what the door and gloom crowd wants management to do. You should be thankful that we have a management team willing to stand up to the investors and do what's best for the airline in the long term.
10-23-2017, 12:40 PM
#59
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Posts: 846
Whar was it that Bethune did?
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10-23-2017, 08:51 PM
#60
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Position: 787 CA
Posts: 425
Because UAL was doing so damned great before? Prior to Slimesack CAL did have a pretty decent CEO - Larry Kellner. He was eventually forced to resign because...he wouldn't approve a merger with UAL (remember?). UAL may have been "downsized" for the merger but CAL was Smisecked for the same reason.
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