HUGE Bid - 1803
10-18-2017, 04:43 PM
#82
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Position: 737 ca
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Pick up 5 and get 3 hrs, company assigns 2 get 2 more. Manually pickup over 5 and get nothing.
The new programing differentates manual and assigned. Before everything was considered assigned.
10-18-2017, 05:30 PM
#83
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,866
Anything over 5 the company is able to give for 1 hr mpg. The first 5 are co or manual pickup, after 5 only the company assigned are for more mpg hours.
Pick up 5 and get 3 hrs, company assigns 2 get 2 more. Manually pickup over 5 and get nothing.
The new programing differentates manual and assigned. Before everything was considered assigned.
Pick up 5 and get 3 hrs, company assigns 2 get 2 more. Manually pickup over 5 and get nothing.
The new programing differentates manual and assigned. Before everything was considered assigned.
10-18-2017, 08:09 PM
#84
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: right
Posts: 38
Anything over 5 the company is able to give for 1 hr mpg. The first 5 are co or manual pickup, after 5 only the company assigned are for more mpg hours.
Pick up 5 and get 3 hrs, company assigns 2 get 2 more. Manually pickup over 5 and get nothing.
The new programing differentates manual and assigned. Before everything was considered assigned.
Pick up 5 and get 3 hrs, company assigns 2 get 2 more. Manually pickup over 5 and get nothing.
The new programing differentates manual and assigned. Before everything was considered assigned.
Paragraph 3-C-1-b-1-a explains that when you pick up or are assigned your first five SCs or FSB assignments that go unused you will get 3 hours of additional MPG bump.
Paragraph 3-C-1-b-1-b allows for an additional hour of MPG bump for every SC or FSB that is assigned and goes unused after the first five that were assigned.
The (b) calculation is separate than the (a) calculation and (b) only applies to assignments that are assigned by the company.
Paragraph 3-C-1-b-1-b allows for an additional hour of MPG bump for every SC or FSB that is assigned and goes unused after the first five that were assigned.
The (b) calculation is separate than the (a) calculation and (b) only applies to assignments that are assigned by the company.
I won't be picking any up anymore. We'll see how it plays out.
10-18-2017, 08:15 PM
#85
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,866
This is incorrect. From the union e-mail: ...Paragraph 3-C-1-b-1-b allows for an additional hour of MPG bump for every SC or FSB that is assigned and goes unused after the first five that were assigned.
This means if you pick up 5, the company gets 5 more free before you get paid any more.
I won't be picking any up anymore. We'll see how it plays out.
This means if you pick up 5, the company gets 5 more free before you get paid any more.
I won't be picking any up anymore. We'll see how it plays out.
10-18-2017, 08:31 PM
#86
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: right
Posts: 38
Unused was implied.
I'm saying (as the union is) that picking up 5 short calls that remain unused will pay 76, and if you picked up all 5, then the company can assign you 5 more, and even if they remain unused, you will not get paid for any of them. Remember, separate calculations.
Say a total of 8 unused short calls:
5 picked up, 3 assigned (in that order): pays 76
4 picked up, 4 assigned: pays 76
3 picked up, 5 assigned: pays 76
2 picked up, 6 assigned: pays 77
1 picked up, 7 assigned: pays 78
Paragraphs a and b are separate calculations. You need to be assigned more than 5 and have them remain unused to get paid above 76.
I'm saying (as the union is) that picking up 5 short calls that remain unused will pay 76, and if you picked up all 5, then the company can assign you 5 more, and even if they remain unused, you will not get paid for any of them. Remember, separate calculations.
Say a total of 8 unused short calls:
5 picked up, 3 assigned (in that order): pays 76
4 picked up, 4 assigned: pays 76
3 picked up, 5 assigned: pays 76
2 picked up, 6 assigned: pays 77
1 picked up, 7 assigned: pays 78
Paragraphs a and b are separate calculations. You need to be assigned more than 5 and have them remain unused to get paid above 76.
10-19-2017, 03:57 AM
#88
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Joined APC: Aug 2009
Posts: 168
No it hasn't changed what I would bid.
As a reserve, it hasn't even changed my strategy for picking up SC's. I'm going to keep picking them aggressively because for me the primary thing is not to get used. In my BES the schedulers HATE using their SC's. I'm not waiting for a possible unused, assigned SC and risk getting popped for a four day trip.
Dogg
As a reserve, it hasn't even changed my strategy for picking up SC's. I'm going to keep picking them aggressively because for me the primary thing is not to get used. In my BES the schedulers HATE using their SC's. I'm not waiting for a possible unused, assigned SC and risk getting popped for a four day trip.
Dogg
10-19-2017, 04:14 AM
#89
Guppy reserve EWR
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 501
No it hasn't changed what I would bid.
As a reserve, it hasn't even changed my strategy for picking up SC's. I'm going to keep picking them aggressively because for me the primary thing is not to get used. In my BES the schedulers HATE using their SC's. I'm not waiting for a possible unused, assigned SC and risk getting popped for a four day trip.
Dogg
As a reserve, it hasn't even changed my strategy for picking up SC's. I'm going to keep picking them aggressively because for me the primary thing is not to get used. In my BES the schedulers HATE using their SC's. I'm not waiting for a possible unused, assigned SC and risk getting popped for a four day trip.
Dogg
Currently I'm commuting to reserve, waiting for our house to be built before moving. So basically I pick up every bottom of the barrel trip I can get. Keeps me from having to pay for a hotel. I'm guessing those living in base on reserve appreciate it as well since some of the trips I pick up really suck.
Anyway, I guess most on reserve are on reserve to work as little as possible and not to make extra cash. I suppose there are a few that really try to play the reserve game to pick up a few extra hours. I doubt the new tracking will change their minds enough to bid a vacancy to a more junior base and have to commute though.
However, I wonder if many are really considering on how this will affect them and if they'll change their minds after a few months of either not getting the extra pay for aggressively picking up SC/FSs or not picking them up and getting assigned an occasional trip.
10-19-2017, 05:32 AM
#90
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,866
No it hasn't changed what I would bid.
As a reserve, it hasn't even changed my strategy for picking up SC's. I'm going to keep picking them aggressively because for me the primary thing is not to get used. In my BES the schedulers HATE using their SC's. I'm not waiting for a possible unused, assigned SC and risk getting popped for a four day trip.
Dogg
As a reserve, it hasn't even changed my strategy for picking up SC's. I'm going to keep picking them aggressively because for me the primary thing is not to get used. In my BES the schedulers HATE using their SC's. I'm not waiting for a possible unused, assigned SC and risk getting popped for a four day trip.
Dogg
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