HUGE Bid - 1803
10-17-2017, 08:06 PM
#51
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No. I get your point. Problem with that 9600 of last year, was it occurred before the big 747 bumps out of SFO. That has made everything really senior. Heck, wide body out of LAX went down to 9700 beforehand. Now you have to be sub 7000 to get it. Too many guys are looking at the Junior Man and thinking that's the reference point, and on the west coast, that no longer applies. Too many guys sub 9000 struggling to get CAP. Now that there are openings coming up, you'll have some senior FO's in the 3000-5000 range finally bidding to the left seat knowing they'll have junior guys in the 7000-9000 range coming under them. First step is to have that announcement of the new airbii or it's moot.
If you can't be a comfortable line holder as a captain, why bid down from WB FO? Takes roughly 86 hours in a WB to equal 73 on reserve as a captain.
So 18 days off, flying one leg to a 24+ hour overnight... or schleping around on reserve flying 3 legs a day?
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10-17-2017, 08:13 PM
#52
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Do you have any reason why the the MD went so junior in ATL?!!!
I'll tell you directly from my Delta buds. The MD starts early and has super long duty days with 4 or more legs. Noncommutable and it's a dinosaur of an airplane. This is much different than our UAL NB's. Proofs in the pudding bud. Just look at how senior these CAP slots are going for and will be by end of this vacancy. Not trying to be pessimistic, just realistic. To throw out a DAL mad dog CAP seniority was asinine.
I'll tell you directly from my Delta buds. The MD starts early and has super long duty days with 4 or more legs. Noncommutable and it's a dinosaur of an airplane. This is much different than our UAL NB's. Proofs in the pudding bud. Just look at how senior these CAP slots are going for and will be by end of this vacancy. Not trying to be pessimistic, just realistic. To throw out a DAL mad dog CAP seniority was asinine.
10-17-2017, 08:17 PM
#53
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Exactly. This is why I won’t take a NB CA bid and exactly why NB Captain bid will go really junior in a few more bids.
10-17-2017, 08:21 PM
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I'll stick with being informed and actually reading previous posts, and if my comments warrant being called a knucklehead, then so be it!
10-18-2017, 03:16 AM
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Captain
EWR 777 CA 5
IAH 777 CA 5
ORD 777 CA 8
SFO 777 CA 4
DCA 756 CA 25
EWR 320 CA 25
ORD 320 CA 10
SFO 320 CA 10
DCA 737 CA 15
IAH 737 CA 10
First Officer
EWR 756 FO 15
DCA 756 FO 35
ORD 756 FO 15
SFO 756 FO 10
DCA 320 FO 5
ORD 320 FO 25
SFO 320 FO 10
DCA 737 FO 15
DEN 737 FO 5
LAX 737 FO 15
SFO 737 FO 15
EWR 777 CA 5
IAH 777 CA 5
ORD 777 CA 8
SFO 777 CA 4
DCA 756 CA 25
EWR 320 CA 25
ORD 320 CA 10
SFO 320 CA 10
DCA 737 CA 15
IAH 737 CA 10
First Officer
EWR 756 FO 15
DCA 756 FO 35
ORD 756 FO 15
SFO 756 FO 10
DCA 320 FO 5
ORD 320 FO 25
SFO 320 FO 10
DCA 737 FO 15
DEN 737 FO 5
LAX 737 FO 15
SFO 737 FO 15
10-18-2017, 06:54 AM
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10-18-2017, 06:57 AM
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SFO-SYD is a 4 day worth about 34 hours, including the add pay.
That's why WB FO goes senior.
10-18-2017, 07:30 AM
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