HUGE Bid - 1803
10-19-2017, 06:51 AM
#91
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: SFO Guppy CA
Posts: 1,112
So now the Company is following the contract that we both signed!?!? My strategy when I first started here was since I had to commute from the west coast to the east coast, I had to be in base for my reserve stint, was to pick up as many SC or FS as I could. Only up to the five though. After that, I would only let the Company assign me SC or FS. Since I was already in base, it made sense for me to pick them up because I didn't want to have someone commute in for a silly SC or FS.
10-19-2017, 10:07 AM
#92
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2005
Position: 787 FO
Posts: 811
LSR?? What about a strategy of picking up an FSB toward the end of ones reserve period? Coming off FSB you are back on LC. I have a relatively "short" commute so I can fly home after released. Not that any commute is short. This wouldn't work for a transcon commuter.
10-19-2017, 10:37 AM
#93
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Position: UAL
Posts: 94
-from the union...
"Reserve Bidding Alert:
New system changes could affect your pay, so please read carefully.
As a reserve, when you have a Short Call (SC) or Field Standby (FSB) assignment that goes unused, the United Pilot Agreement (UPA) section 3-C-1-b explains how your Minimum Pay Guarantee (MPG) may be increased.
In order to understand this UPA section and how unused SC/FSBs increase MPG, you need to read paragraphs 3-C-1-b-1-a and 3-C-1-b-1-b as separate events. This contract language is reviewed below and the full reference is provided at the end of this message.
Paragraph 3-C-1-b-1-a explains that when you pick up or are assigned your first five SCs or FSB assignments that go unused you will get 3 hours of additional MPG bump.
Paragraph 3-C-1-b-1-b allows for an additional hour of MPG bump for every SC or FSB that is assigned and goes unused after the first five that were assigned.
The (b) calculation is separate than the (a) calculation and (b) only applies to assignments that are assigned by the company.
Up until now, due to IT limitations, the company's crew management system wasn't programmed to determine the difference between an assigned or picked up SC/FSB. It was treating all SC/FSBs as if they were assigned. This resulted in extra contractual overpayments to pilots on reserve.
Effective with the November bid period, the crew management system is programmed in compliance with UPA sections 3-C-1-b-1-a and 3-C-1-b-1-b. With this in mind, your pay expectations will change if you have been bidding reserve unaware of the issues outlined above and you routinely increased your MPG through unused SC and FSB assignments.
In November, the company will start calculating the reserve MPG bump in accordance with the UPA. This means, as a reserve, your SC/FSBs will not be treated as if they were all assigned so you may not be eligible for the paragraph (b) MPG increase if you choose to pick up reserve assignments."
10-19-2017, 03:44 PM
#94
Abused Spouse of PBS
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 439
I emailed the MEC today about whether or not they will be looking back to collect on the unused SCs that were paid even though they were aggressively picked up. The UAL MEC Treasurer said "this doesn't apply to the unused SCs and FSBs. The company was aware the entire time that they were overpaying due to their IT limitations."
However, in November they will be aware. I'm going to APU my 5 SCs and then go radio silent.
C17D
However, in November they will be aware. I'm going to APU my 5 SCs and then go radio silent.
C17D
10-20-2017, 02:03 AM
#95
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Joined APC: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,244
I emailed the MEC today about whether or not they will be looking back to collect on the unused SCs that were paid even though they were aggressively picked up. The UAL MEC Treasurer said "this doesn't apply to the unused SCs and FSBs. The company was aware the entire time that they were overpaying due to their IT limitations."
However, in November they will be aware. I'm going to APU my 5 SCs and then go radio silent.
C17D
However, in November they will be aware. I'm going to APU my 5 SCs and then go radio silent.
C17D
10-20-2017, 07:39 AM
#96
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Joined APC: May 2010
Position: Awa(k3rE3
Posts: 213
No more pickups for me. I suspect the skeds will still load me up on their own...they just won't be the availability windows I prefer. If they don't, meh. I don't bid reserve to make money.
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10-20-2017, 10:43 AM
#100
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: Airbus 320 Captain
Posts: 481
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