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Old 10-11-2017, 01:13 PM
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Just wondering what happened with the ALPA/UAL company seminars. How many folks have been called for interviews or hired? I went in Aug 14 in ORD. Thought eventually I would get a call, at the time I spoke with the East CP, told me resume looked good. I figured I’d get a chance within 2years. Regards,
Patiently waiting for UAL....
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I don’t know of anyone that got a call as a result of going to one of those FFD open houses. It was one more item to add to your bag, just like other job fairs, volunteer work, education, etc. It took me about a year and a half to get a call after the FFD open house, and that was after more volunteer work, more job fairs and a new type rating. Everyone has heard it before but just keep doing what you can.
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I went to one of those at TK in 2014 and was hired about a year later. Of the 5 of my friends that went 3 of 5 were hired. IMO, 2 of those would have gotten the call anyway while myself and the other guy were nothing special but pretty persistent in getting the call. Shake as many hands as you can, smile your ass off, have the Why United / Tell me about yourself down cold, and try to remember names because the people running those are the people that will do your interview.

Check your airline apps for errors(medical, passport, instructor expiration) , rewrite your accomplishment boxes to be paragraphs vs bullet points, maybe get a few more letters of rec (they don't expire, can be deleted if they suck, and they see when you received them), and check the addendum for screw ups. There was one question that asked if you have every worked for ANY airline and everyone read it as "have you worked for united before". A few people I have looked over also didn't give them all the info for the airlines they did work at.

We haven't hired in almost 8 months and your chances are only going to improve as this kicks off. The numbers that the big three are looking for are going to open up positions at every airline you can think of. The money and QOL at the big 3 has persuaded a good portion of the LCC's that it is worth the move.
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I went to one of those at TK in 2014 and was hired about a year later. Of the 5 of my friends that went 3 of 5 were hired. IMO, 2 of those would have gotten the call anyway while myself and the other guy were nothing special but pretty persistent in getting the call. Shake as many hands as you can, smile your ass off, have the Why United / Tell me about yourself down cold, and try to remember names because the people running those are the people that will do your interview.

Check your airline apps for errors(medical, passport, instructor expiration) , rewrite your accomplishment boxes to be paragraphs vs bullet points, maybe get a few more letters of rec (they don't expire, can be deleted if they suck, and they see when you received them), and check the addendum for screw ups. There was one question that asked if you have every worked for ANY airline and everyone read it as "have you worked for united before". A few people I have looked over also didn't give them all the info for the airlines they did work at.

We haven't hired in almost 8 months and your chances are only going to improve as this kicks off. The numbers that the big three are looking for are going to open up positions at every airline you can think of. The money and QOL at the big 3 has persuaded a good portion of the LCC's that it is worth the move.
Thank you for the application tips. Since we are on the topic of keeping the application current, what would you suggest if your CFI is expired? Would you leave it out or just put the origanal expiration date in there? I am worried that the expired license could trigger an out of date application.
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Thank you for the application tips. Since we are on the topic of keeping the application current, what would you suggest if your CFI is expired? Would you leave it out or just put the origanal expiration date in there? I am worried that the expired license could trigger an out of date application.
I was advised to put in on there, wasn't an issue.

You hold the CFI, it's just expired. YMMV
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I was advised to put in on there, wasn't an issue.

You hold the CFI, it's just expired. YMMV
You don’t have a CFI if it’s expired, like a drivers license.
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You don’t have a CFI if it’s expired, like a drivers license.

True, let me rephrase.

I got a Delta "Fix it" email years back.

Something along the lines of "your app shows instructor/dual given time but no instructor certificate. Please provide the instructor certificate number/DOI in which you did this under blah blah blah". Or something along those lines.

So even though it was expired, my app was considered incomplete without the info. As opposed the guy I quoted that may perceive opposite.

I KNOW, that's Delta Air(space)Lines, and they're super anal about app completeness and what not. But so was UAL......
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