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Old 08-24-2017, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
Why are united pilots itching for a merger so badly?

Why are ULCC pilots itching for a buyout from United so badly?
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:15 PM
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Well, if you think the majority of the JB pilot group cleans planes and isn't committed to a market rate CBA, then maybe you guys aren't worthy of this pilot group anyway.... (insert sarcastic emoji winking in a feeble attempt to soften the asinine comment)
Hey, you are the one who asked the question about culture.

There are plenty of awesome folks at JB and you are correct, UAL would be fortunate to have them aboard. However, it's the rest that make the "JB culture" different, and not in a good way, than pretty much every other airline out there.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
Why are ULCC pilots itching for a buyout from United so badly?
Because they can't get their app pulled....
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
That would certainly be my first choice.

But it would also appear that **something** is up with the backtracking of the fleet plan and the recent revisions to pilot hiring that appear contrary to stated staffing requirements.

IMHO, the information vacuum combined with radically revised plans has only stoked the rumor mills. In my tenure more than one major corporate strategy shift was first signaled by such actions only to become official much later.
Really, we're not merging or buying anyone despite what the signals are.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
That would certainly be my first choice.

But it would also appear that **something** is up with the backtracking of the fleet plan and the recent revisions to pilot hiring that appear contrary to stated staffing requirements.
Scott Kirby's expansion of United Express Flying through regional partners to make its domestic route structure more profitable is probably the most likely scenario...
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Hey, you are the one who asked the question about culture.

There are plenty of awesome folks at JB and you are correct, UAL would be fortunate to have them aboard. However, it's the rest that make the "JB culture" different, and not in a good way, than pretty much every other airline out there.
You're right...I asked. My point is, there is a small group of idiots in every pilot group. There are good and bad guys at Spirit. There are good and bad guys at Jetblue.

You have ZERO idea about the general culture at Jetblue and your comments just reiterate that fact to me.

You want to talk why Spirit would be better than Jetblue?

Airframes.
Orders.
Real Estate.
Synergistic effect of what combining the 2 airlines would mean.

Those are legitimate factors that are worthy of discussion.

Culture? Joke.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
You have ZERO idea about the general culture at Jetblue and your comments just reiterate that fact to me.
Really?

The last JB airplane I ever set foot on was one I landed.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Really?

The last JB airplane I ever set foot on was one I landed.
How long ago? Things are/have changing/changed. Rapidly. Again, lots of good reasons to debate one vs the other. "Culture" of a pilot group is not one of them. Lots of great people here. Don't disrespect them because you were disgruntled while you were here.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
How long ago? Things are/have changing/changed. Rapidly. Again, lots of good reasons to debate one vs the other. "Culture" of a pilot group is not one of them. Lots of great people here. Don't disrespect them because you were disgruntled while you were here.
Now you are the one making assumptions so I'll keep sharing my opinions based on first person knowledge.

(Note that I have precisely zero posts over in the JB sub-forum. If my intent was to go p*ss in other's cornflakes that's where I'd start. I haven't.)
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Now you are the one making assumptions so I'll keep sharing my opinions based on first person knowledge.
And I'll make my observations based on what I see/know of the current pilot group. Not one based on when I left (X) months/years ago.

I'm pretty sure my knowledge of this pilot group is much more up to date and accurate than yours. And whether you want to admit it or not, your opinion of the JB pilot "culture" will be biased based on your experiences...one of the reasons I'm sure you chose to leave.
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