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Old 08-24-2017, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by uaav8r
We're not.
It really seems like it.
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Old 08-24-2017, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
Why are united pilots itching for a merger so badly?
As far as I can say, we aren't. We don't want a merger. We see no upside. Everyone I fly with says they hope we don't merge with a LCC or anyone else. I, for one, don't want a merger at all. Already have that block checked.
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Old 08-24-2017, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
It really seems like it.
Nope. It really doesn't.
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Old 08-24-2017, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by uaav8r
Nope. It really doesn't.
Thanks for the quality response, but 2 threads hundreds of posts long would disagree.
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Old 08-24-2017, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
Thanks for the quality response, but 2 threads hundreds of posts long would disagree.
You're welcome.
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Old 08-24-2017, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Overpriced implies paying more than they're worth.....I'd agree with "too expensive" though....

Bad fit route-wise? JB and United have almost no overlap....only concern is NY/NJ dominance....

And I'm curious how Spirit's "culture" fits better with United.....

I'm of the opinion neither will happen btw....just found your comment(s) curious, which is why I asked...
I would disagree with almost no overlap. Several years ago the then PVC (remember that) comisioned a study via the merger committee to determine the most likely merger partner. Ual and JB overlapped on something like 63% of their respective domestic lift. Look at NYC, BOS, Wash metro, LA basin, the Bay area. The least amount of overlap would be the FL cities to the Caribbean and DEN. Respectively.

As I recall at the time the most likely was AA (which almost happened were it not for Doug Parker).
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Old 08-24-2017, 12:43 PM
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And I'm curious how Spirit's "culture" fits better with United...
Since you asked....IMHO, UAL would mesh much better with a group wearing Battle Stars than a group that can't get a CBA and thinks cleaning airplanes is a positive attribute that brings something to the table.
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Old 08-24-2017, 12:58 PM
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We're not buying anyone nor merging with anyone.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
Since you asked....IMHO, UAL would mesh much better with a group wearing Battle Stars than a group that can't get a CBA and thinks cleaning airplanes is a positive attribute that brings something to the table.
Well, if you think the majority of the JB pilot group cleans planes and isn't committed to a market rate CBA, then maybe you guys aren't worthy of this pilot group anyway.... (insert sarcastic emoji winking in a feeble attempt to soften the asinine comment)

The majority of JB pilots are some of the most professional aviators in the industry....any group would be lucky to be associated with them. Don't equate a small amount of juicers with the overwhelming amount of guys and girls employed at JB who are top notch individuals.

And just because someone hasn't been in combat, doesn't mean they aren't ready to go, and won't perform admirably.

Pilots are some of the dumbest SOBs on the planet...never seen a group of "adults" so eager to eat their own so willingly, and happily.
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Old 08-24-2017, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 89Pistons
We're not buying anyone nor merging with anyone.
That would certainly be my first choice.

But it would also appear that **something** is up with the backtracking of the fleet plan and the recent revisions to pilot hiring that appear contrary to stated staffing requirements.

IMHO, the information vacuum combined with radically revised plans has only stoked the rumor mills. In my tenure more than one major corporate strategy shift was first signaled by such actions only to become official much later.
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