Summer 2017 Pool
09-29-2017, 12:06 AM
#191
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Fellas,
As I read this thread it's obvious that most everyone is either on one side of the fence (the sky is falling) or on the calm, clear & sunny side of the fence. I'm currently working on my swimming abilities as a poolie just waiting and waiting for the call to head to Denver.
What's some valid pros and cons of A: staying with my current Dallas all 737 airline, B: exercising a CJO to AA or C: continue to swim in this pool with the fear that my UA CJO will expire if we don't start BI soon ish?
As I read this thread it's obvious that most everyone is either on one side of the fence (the sky is falling) or on the calm, clear & sunny side of the fence. I'm currently working on my swimming abilities as a poolie just waiting and waiting for the call to head to Denver.
What's some valid pros and cons of A: staying with my current Dallas all 737 airline, B: exercising a CJO to AA or C: continue to swim in this pool with the fear that my UA CJO will expire if we don't start BI soon ish?
09-29-2017, 03:20 AM
#192
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09-29-2017, 04:32 AM
#193
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Check airman meeting last week it was said by both Kirby and Paul Carlson that 450ish was the number they were planning for 2018.
09-29-2017, 04:41 AM
#194
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Fellas,
As I read this thread it's obvious that most everyone is either on one side of the fence (the sky is falling) or on the calm, clear & sunny side of the fence. I'm currently working on my swimming abilities as a poolie just waiting and waiting for the call to head to Denver.
What's some valid pros and cons of A: staying with my current Dallas all 737 airline, B: exercising a CJO to AA or C: continue to swim in this pool with the fear that my UA CJO will expire if we don't start BI soon ish?
As I read this thread it's obvious that most everyone is either on one side of the fence (the sky is falling) or on the calm, clear & sunny side of the fence. I'm currently working on my swimming abilities as a poolie just waiting and waiting for the call to head to Denver.
What's some valid pros and cons of A: staying with my current Dallas all 737 airline, B: exercising a CJO to AA or C: continue to swim in this pool with the fear that my UA CJO will expire if we don't start BI soon ish?
09-29-2017, 07:30 AM
#197
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The 65 737-700s were not cancelled. They were converted to 4 737-800s (the last of which we received this month) and 61 737-9 MAXs which all pay the higher 800/900 pay rate and increase the blended rate instead of lowering it as the 700s would have done. (This was along with converting the existing 100 737-9 MAX orders to 100 737-10 MAX)
Long term, the larger, and more efficient, MAX orders make more sense than the small, older, NGs. We just have to wait a bit longer for them.
Long term, the larger, and more efficient, MAX orders make more sense than the small, older, NGs. We just have to wait a bit longer for them.
09-29-2017, 09:11 AM
#198
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The 65 737-700s were not cancelled. They were converted to 4 737-800s (the last of which we received this month) and 61 737-9 MAXs which all pay the higher 800/900 pay rate and increase the blended rate instead of lowering it as the 700s would have done. (This was along with converting the existing 100 737-9 MAX orders to 100 737-10 MAX)
Long term, the larger, and more efficient, MAX orders make more sense than the small, older, NGs. We just have to wait a bit longer for them.
Long term, the larger, and more efficient, MAX orders make more sense than the small, older, NGs. We just have to wait a bit longer for them.
The other unknown is the schedule for the China Southern 319's. Not sure if they are still coming since that info was excluded from recent flight ops updates on future deliveries.
09-29-2017, 10:03 AM
#199
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Another 'unknown' is what the company might be planning with regards to parking more of the older aircraft, in the coming few years.
As long as we hire 450ish, we are keeping up with retirements and keeping the training pipeline primed.
It's been quoted that K wanted more/better utilization of aircraft and crews.
So its possible to actually grow the airline without actually adding tons of planes and pilots.
I still smile when I think about people believing that we were going to have 14000-16000-18000 pilots in the coming years.
Sometimes slow & steady does win the race.
As far as summer 2018 is concerned, 8 months away. They can always get a few extra classes of 40's going in the spring that would cover any crazy growth.
Motch
As long as we hire 450ish, we are keeping up with retirements and keeping the training pipeline primed.
It's been quoted that K wanted more/better utilization of aircraft and crews.
So its possible to actually grow the airline without actually adding tons of planes and pilots.
I still smile when I think about people believing that we were going to have 14000-16000-18000 pilots in the coming years.
Sometimes slow & steady does win the race.
As far as summer 2018 is concerned, 8 months away. They can always get a few extra classes of 40's going in the spring that would cover any crazy growth.
Motch
09-29-2017, 10:12 AM
#200
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Another 'unknown' is what the company might be planning with regards to parking more of the older aircraft, in the coming few years.
As long as we hire 450ish, we are keeping up with retirements and keeping the training pipeline primed.
It's been quoted that K wanted more/better utilization of aircraft and crews.
So its possible to actually grow the airline without actually adding tons of planes and pilots.
I still smile when I think about people believing that we were going to have 14000-16000-18000 pilots in the coming years.
Sometimes slow & steady does win the race.
As far as summer 2018 is concerned, 8 months away. They can always get a few extra classes of 40's going in the spring that would cover any crazy growth.
Motch
As long as we hire 450ish, we are keeping up with retirements and keeping the training pipeline primed.
It's been quoted that K wanted more/better utilization of aircraft and crews.
So its possible to actually grow the airline without actually adding tons of planes and pilots.
I still smile when I think about people believing that we were going to have 14000-16000-18000 pilots in the coming years.
Sometimes slow & steady does win the race.
As far as summer 2018 is concerned, 8 months away. They can always get a few extra classes of 40's going in the spring that would cover any crazy growth.
Motch
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