HuggyU2

Hahaha!
AWAX for the win.

pilotgolfer

Final award is out.

AUBBIE99

Can someone provide results (or potential ramifications) for we poolies? Thanks.

cadetdrivr

None whatsoever.

It's shuffling the deck in the top half of the seniority list.

pilotgolfer

I don't think these displacements will have any ramifications for new hires. It's basically just a bunch of widebody pilots changing seats to other widebody seats. It's going to clog the training pipeline for the 777/787 for a few months, but I suspect things will get back to normal after the summer. Expect a steady flow of new hires to the 737/320/756.

MasterOfPuppets

It means nothing for poolies however there will be atleast 1 more displacement. Heres a quick look at the numbers.

SFO 787 CA +52/28% increase
LAX 787 CA +23/25% increase
IAH 777 CA +28/35% increase
IAH 756 CA +14/14% increase

SFO 787 FO +44/13% increase
IAH 777 FO +35/18% increase

I think the next and hopefully final displacement will look something like this: DCA 777 CA should be the junior WB after the displacement.

SFO 787 CA -50 back to 2200 (only 10 of those can hold WB CA)

LAX 787 CA -8 back to 2200 (5 can hold WB CA) They would need to bump back to 2200 to keep everyone in SFO from bumping down to LAX.

IAH 777 CA -30 (all can hold WB CA)

IAH 756 CA -25

SFO 787 FO -30 (all can hold WB FO)

IAH 777 FO -40 back to about 7800 (only 5 can hold can hold CA in IAH)

The seniority list is starting to fall back into its natural order and the seniority in seats and bases is starting to level out. So we should only see 1 more displacement unless DCA 777 needs to be lowered or they close the LAX 777 base. The movement at United will still be upward as the biggest retirement base at the airline is EWR and no one has displaced there. Not as many people took the 777 in SFO in either seat there will be bids there. Not enough people bid into DCA 787 so there will be bids there. ORD didn't see any people come in so there will be bids there. While people did bid NB CA there is not enough to cover next summer so there will be bids there. The training pipeline is going to be jam packed but no one is going to right seat in a narrow body so that is where the poolies come in. Good luck and don't stress the displacements as a new hire.

AUBBIE99

Thanks for the feedback gents. Great insight. Cheers.

IHateYou

Is this just your WAG? Or do you have some insider info?

Also. Right now the IAH 777 FO is staffed at the max of 197. People on leave don't count. So we just added 35. Why would they displace 40?? Why wouldn't they just displace 35 to bring them back to the max of 197?

I haven't looked at all other bases but my question would apply there too.

MasterOfPuppets

WAG....The min max sheet really doesn't mean jack.

Looking at the IAH 777 FO RSV list, of the names I can see, no one has broke guarantee and most haven't even broke 20 hours. to me that says overstaffed.....so I figure all 35 that came in will bump 35 out plus a couple.

SFO 787 FO can probably run ok and a bit fat at 370. After this displacement we will be at 397.

IAH 756 CA is already over staffed so all out plus some and it will most likely take a hit when DEN 756 opens.

IAH 777 CA looks about right so 30 in 30 out maybe a few less due to retirements.

SFO 787 CA is so fat right now there are CAs going to landings class. I overheard a CA who was on his second trip since June of last year. and the other trip was an LAX repo DH back. SO 52 in 50 out should cover retirements and attrition until fall of 2018.

LAX 787 CA will see as many displacements as they need to match the seniority of SFO so there is not a flood of pilots into the category.

Monkeyfly

SFO 777
CA - 21
FO -52
SFO 787
CA - 50
FO - 44
SFO 756
CA - 6
FO - 1
SFO 737
CA - 9
SFO 320
CA - 1
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LAX 777
CA-1
FO-5
LAX 787
CA-23
FO-21
LAX 737
CA-2
LAX 320
CA-2
------------
IAH 777
CA-29
FO-33
IAH 756
CA-14
FO-1
IAH 320
CA-1
------------
DEN 737
CA-5
DEN 320
CA-3
------------
GUM 737
CA-3
-------------
DCA 777
CA-4
FO-1
DCA 787
CA-3
FO-5
DCA 756
CA-4
----------
EWR 777
CA-1
FO-2
EWR 756
CA-2
----------
ORD 777
CA-1
FO-1
ORD 756
CA-1

(Numbers include paper bids, SUP/LTA)