New Displacement Out
07-11-2017, 11:59 AM
#51
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As far as DCA 777 is concerned, even though the 787 is taking over four of their routes I think the 787 showing up on the East Coast is more about eventually replacing some of the East Coast 757 and 767 flying. The frames that were utilized on those four routes will be redistributed somewhere. Maybe out of DCA but B Models will be needed for SFO-PVG, winter SFO-HND, and SFO-LHR #2. But somewhere in all this some 756 flying will have to be replaced with other equipment or discontinued. They're pulling the frames from some domicile's flying to cover DEN 756. 756 block hours will have to decrease in one or two domiciles to accommodate.
07-11-2017, 02:57 PM
#52
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The extra jets don't make a difference. New routes and added block hours do. LAX-SIN and the seasonal SFO-AKL coming back will help but not enough unless the company just plans to eat the large overstaffing on the 787 West Coast.
As far as DCA 777 is concerned, even though the 787 is taking over four of their routes I think the 787 showing up on the East Coast is more about eventually replacing some of the East Coast 757 and 767 flying. The frames that were utilized on those four routes will be redistributed somewhere. Maybe out of DCA but B Models will be needed for SFO-PVG, winter SFO-HND, and SFO-LHR #2. But somewhere in all this some 756 flying will have to be replaced with other equipment or discontinued. They're pulling the frames from some domicile's flying to cover DEN 756. 756 block hours will have to decrease in one or two domiciles to accommodate.
As far as DCA 777 is concerned, even though the 787 is taking over four of their routes I think the 787 showing up on the East Coast is more about eventually replacing some of the East Coast 757 and 767 flying. The frames that were utilized on those four routes will be redistributed somewhere. Maybe out of DCA but B Models will be needed for SFO-PVG, winter SFO-HND, and SFO-LHR #2. But somewhere in all this some 756 flying will have to be replaced with other equipment or discontinued. They're pulling the frames from some domicile's flying to cover DEN 756. 756 block hours will have to decrease in one or two domiciles to accommodate.
07-11-2017, 03:12 PM
#53
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True true. My mistake. I was counting those because they were former 777 routes flown by DCA at the time there were last vacancies for DCA 777. I forgot about the 787 W's.
07-11-2017, 03:32 PM
#54
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I'm fairly certain that Denver 756 will exist at the cost of LAX. There's a lot of HI-DEN flying in the LAX bid package, as well as DEN-EWR that doesn't make sense for LAX to fly when DEN 756 reopens.
07-11-2017, 09:15 PM
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hmmm
in May of 85, some big union guys put on the groucho marx glasses and went to work. some non-members went on strike. more recently, i've seen guys with tie tacks and bag stickers and lanyards and all the union hoohaa acting like the biggest company men right in the middle of contract negotiations.. you don't know what you'll do till you're actually there - under the pressure
in May of 85, some big union guys put on the groucho marx glasses and went to work. some non-members went on strike. more recently, i've seen guys with tie tacks and bag stickers and lanyards and all the union hoohaa acting like the biggest company men right in the middle of contract negotiations.. you don't know what you'll do till you're actually there - under the pressure
07-11-2017, 09:38 PM
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hmmm
in May of 85, some big union guys put on the groucho marx glasses and went to work. some non-members went on strike. more recently, i've seen guys with tie tacks and bag stickers and lanyards and all the union hoohaa acting like the biggest company men right in the middle of contract negotiations.. you don't know what you'll do till you're actually there - under the pressure
in May of 85, some big union guys put on the groucho marx glasses and went to work. some non-members went on strike. more recently, i've seen guys with tie tacks and bag stickers and lanyards and all the union hoohaa acting like the biggest company men right in the middle of contract negotiations.. you don't know what you'll do till you're actually there - under the pressure
07-11-2017, 11:49 PM
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Maybe it is time for a Longevity based pay system and ditch the archaic Weight based system we have had for decades. Then nobody chases airplanes and bases which destroys their QOL for money.
Also, who cares what airplanes the company buys, fly the airplane that fits your butt. The company spends the same amount of money on pilot payroll and buys the correct airplane for their mission and doesn't have to figure in the pilot Drama.
Of course, this would be a big change for ALPA and it wouldn't fit into their Pattern Bargining scheme so it will never be discussed.
Stay the Course and hold the line!
Also, who cares what airplanes the company buys, fly the airplane that fits your butt. The company spends the same amount of money on pilot payroll and buys the correct airplane for their mission and doesn't have to figure in the pilot Drama.
Of course, this would be a big change for ALPA and it wouldn't fit into their Pattern Bargining scheme so it will never be discussed.
Stay the Course and hold the line!
07-12-2017, 06:12 AM
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hmmm
in May of 85, some big union guys put on the groucho marx glasses and went to work. some non-members went on strike. more recently, i've seen guys with tie tacks and bag stickers and lanyards and all the union hoohaa acting like the biggest company men right in the middle of contract negotiations.. you don't know what you'll do till you're actually there - under the pressure
in May of 85, some big union guys put on the groucho marx glasses and went to work. some non-members went on strike. more recently, i've seen guys with tie tacks and bag stickers and lanyards and all the union hoohaa acting like the biggest company men right in the middle of contract negotiations.. you don't know what you'll do till you're actually there - under the pressure
07-12-2017, 07:39 AM
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and airhoss. whatever. history has shown that some pilots follow their own self interests- notwithstanding all their prior grandstanding. i'd peg some blowhards on this forum as the first to run to the airport for the wb captain upgrades should we ever go out on strike again. and they will really explode - now that i've said it...
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