Den756
06-13-2017, 08:58 AM
#52
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"Highest percentage connecting?hub. That is the antithesis of the SWA business model, so likely our results will vary.
For years I've listened to airline execs whine abut the inefficiency of the hub and spoke system, while coveting the SWA model.
Yet here we are, expanding a hub based on "connecting traffic", where the SWA model has thrived.
For years I've listened to airline execs whine abut the inefficiency of the hub and spoke system, while coveting the SWA model.
Yet here we are, expanding a hub based on "connecting traffic", where the SWA model has thrived.
06-13-2017, 10:08 AM
#54
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06-13-2017, 10:17 AM
#55
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Big bid a few back got a 320 FO with 14 months on property into DEN. Not long to wait.
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06-13-2017, 11:17 AM
#56
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Position: Captain
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Denver has been one of our most successful cities in the history of Southwest Airlines, if not the most according to Gary Kelly. I think we hit 217 flights a day this month, and we have 820 pilots based in Denver. We add about 20 pilots a month on the vacancy awards. We are adding more gates on the east side of the C concourse and we would grow more if they could hire ground ops faster. We just passed over 1000 rampers and I think they need to hire 350 more. Denver is now a maintenance base for us and I wouldn't be surprised if Southwest doesn't buy or build a hanger. Denver flight ops says the base will be a mega station. Probably over 1000 pilots some time next year. We are flying full in and out of Denver constantly, AM's or PM's it doesn't matter.
06-14-2017, 08:31 AM
#57
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"Highest percentage connecting?hub. That is the antithesis of the SWA business model, so likely our results will vary.
For years I've listened to airline execs whine abut the inefficiency of the hub and spoke system, while coveting the SWA model.
Yet here we are, expanding a hub based on "connecting traffic", where the SWA model has thrived.
Good thing I get paid to fly these things and not decide where they fly- despite 40 years watching the business cycles and failed bright ideas.
For years I've listened to airline execs whine abut the inefficiency of the hub and spoke system, while coveting the SWA model.
Yet here we are, expanding a hub based on "connecting traffic", where the SWA model has thrived.
Good thing I get paid to fly these things and not decide where they fly- despite 40 years watching the business cycles and failed bright ideas.
Which is not to say that group hasn't miscalculated before (like a lot...).
It just gets a little old hearing the wizened old hands cherry picking a few public statistics, reminiscing about past failure and then expounding as if they possess expertise they likely don't possess....speculation I can bear, omniscience not so much...
I hope the DEN hub flourishes and management is right about its future, but I never count on anything in this fickle business...
06-14-2017, 06:39 PM
#58
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Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 2,750
Yup, probably good thing you just fly (like me). Your prescient commentary filled with certitude sounds about a decade behind the times and I'm guessing you aren't privy to anything like current realtime data that the head shed uses to make decisions.
Which is not to say that group hasn't miscalculated before (like a lot...).
It just gets a little old hearing the wizened old hands cherry picking a few public statistics, reminiscing about past failure and then expounding as if they possess expertise they likely don't possess....speculation I can bear, omniscience not so much...
I hope the DEN hub flourishes and management is right about its future, but I never count on anything in this fickle business...
Which is not to say that group hasn't miscalculated before (like a lot...).
It just gets a little old hearing the wizened old hands cherry picking a few public statistics, reminiscing about past failure and then expounding as if they possess expertise they likely don't possess....speculation I can bear, omniscience not so much...
I hope the DEN hub flourishes and management is right about its future, but I never count on anything in this fickle business...
06-14-2017, 07:33 PM
#59
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,159
Yup, probably good thing you just fly (like me). Your prescient commentary filled with certitude sounds about a decade behind the times and I'm guessing you aren't privy to anything like current realtime data that the head shed uses to make decisions.
Which is not to say that group hasn't miscalculated before (like a lot...).
It just gets a little old hearing the wizened old hands cherry picking a few public statistics, reminiscing about past failure and then expounding as if they possess expertise they likely don't possess....speculation I can bear, omniscience not so much...
I hope the DEN hub flourishes and management is right about its future, but I never count on anything in this fickle business...
Which is not to say that group hasn't miscalculated before (like a lot...).
It just gets a little old hearing the wizened old hands cherry picking a few public statistics, reminiscing about past failure and then expounding as if they possess expertise they likely don't possess....speculation I can bear, omniscience not so much...
I hope the DEN hub flourishes and management is right about its future, but I never count on anything in this fickle business...
06-14-2017, 08:11 PM
#60
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: 767A (Ret)
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