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Old 06-08-2017, 09:30 AM
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Wow. Can't imagine.
What's wrong with paper?
Nothing wrong with it. I should have said "I" can't imagine "using paper again." Love the electronic version and it's continually improving. Latest version of the Jepp app added ATC clearances along with flight plans for a given flight. Quickly look up a waypoint rather than search on a 2'x3' chart. Was glad to lose the Jepp set with biweekly revision posting.

How other pilots display the same info is great.
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Old 06-08-2017, 12:10 PM
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I noticed it today. I was so excited not to have to type in two passwords that I am now willing to give up scope. All of it.
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
Use my nose to swipe pages?
Nah, Dave, need 2 points of contract to do that. I'd suggest either having your FO use his nose, too, or using your lips, but have to keep top and bottom as separate as possible.
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:23 AM
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Cute idea, except... I'm not near a PC and you can't open pilot bulletins on an iPad...You go IT! UAL IT putting the SH back in IT!
...over 5 years of iPad use in UA, and still can't operate the basic function; and they let you fly airplanes and people for a living?

I hope you can find AP button in your airplane.

You probably still trying to figure out how to set the VCR for recording
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Probe
And that is another IT problem that is going to bite half of us. The IPAD nazis at United assume we are all APPLE geeks and having been playing with our iPhones and iPads for 7-9 years like they have. I ain't the bottom guy (for once) but half the pilots I fly with are somewhere around my level of IOS illiteracy. The other half can play Mozart on the thing. Some still use paper charts.

At some point somebody is going to figure out that half of us need some level of IOS proficiency.
Try to keep up! If you can't figure out iOS, good luck trying to operate Windows 10 with an amazing Microsoft idea of Programs mixed with Applications that do exactly the same and uses twice the computing resources.

Or it's time for most of you to retire already, and sit comfortably in front of your trusty Windows 95/98 machines and let hackers go over your tax returns.

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Old 06-09-2017, 09:10 AM
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I have my iPad set to auto display taxi pages upon 80 knots. 90+ % of the time it pops up just fine showing me exactly where I am. That's one way. IF its so low vis that SMIGS is needed, Stopping the airplane upon exiting the runway and onto a taxiway is prudent. That's just what I do, YMMV.
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Old 06-09-2017, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DaBest
...over 5 years of iPad use in UA, and still can't operate the basic function; and they let you fly airplanes and people for a living?

I hope you can find AP button in your airplane.

You probably still trying to figure out how to set the VCR for recording
Yeah I missed out on that basic function in iPad training. But if you want to have an advanced iPad function contest bring your pocket protector and your bow tie and lets RUMBLE!!

I'll bet you next months paycheck that you do not know how to properly preflight an iPad. I've yet to have a student come through who could.
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Old 06-09-2017, 11:20 AM
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Yeah I missed out on that basic function in iPad training. But if you want to have an advanced iPad function contest bring your pocket protector and your bow tie and lets RUMBLE!!

I'll bet you next months paycheck that you do not know how to properly preflight an iPad. I've yet to have a student come through who could.
If we had some really sharp people...the preflight of the iPad would entail entering your flight number and then letting the gee whiz technology do its thing. All info would propagate to the various apps and be readily available to the pilot.

As far as updates...that should be automatic and out of view of the user.

My opinion only. Let Tom do it...the EZCCS guy.
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Old 06-09-2017, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
What's wrong with paper? I've asked on 2 different PC's now, how am I supposed to fly an approach, land and taxi right away with a device I can only display 1 thing at a time?

Crickets, like no one else has every had that thought, every time they land Cat3 and need SMIGS, or an unfamiliar airport. 1 hand on the tiller, the other coming out of reverse. Use my nose to swipe pages??

Every time I get out a paper STAR, I get really weird stares from the copilot! Star on the clip board, Approach open in the Jepps book on the bag, iPad on the airport diagram. Simple, until they try to remove paper again.
So YOU'RE the reason I'm still saddled with this stupid flight bag taking up the teeny weeny storage area on the dumb Guppy?!!!!! Just kidding =). But seriously I haven't pulled out a chart in years. The iPad is a huge huge improvement in situational awareness. Having the airplane location on the 10-9 is a monster safety enhancer IMHO. Learned the other day in the quarterly training how to display the flight plan at the same time as my Jepps. It was the 3 minutes I guess I didn't sleep through!
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Old 06-09-2017, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
If we had some really sharp people...the preflight of the iPad would entail entering your flight number and then letting the gee whiz technology do its thing. All info would propagate to the various apps and be readily available to the pilot.

As far as updates...that should be automatic and out of view of the user.

My opinion only. Let Tom do it...the EZCCS guy.
Agreed.

If I was king lots of things would get changed.
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