Andy

To get in the weeds a bit,
In Otters' case, he specifically mentioned that he had surgery. That would mean his FAA medical wasn't valid until he could certify himself as able to fly. And if he certified himself as able to fly, he wouldn't be on sick leave.

I know we're blending issues with self and other family members specifically in relation to CASL, but I do want to make sure that everyone understands that their medical isn't valid when out on sick leave for their own health issues. And you need a valid medical to jumpseat.
CASL for other family members? I can see where jumpseating is legal since your medical is still valid.

Anyone feel free to jump in and correct me on this.

Otters

Well said, thanks

BMEP100

Oh really! How is it then we can carry company mechanics and executives and anyone else senior management authorizes?

Andy

Well, the conversation was geared toward pilots. Are you a company mechanic or executive? If so, I would have to refer to the FOM, as I've never seen a mechanic or executive jumpseater.

ALPA Jumpseat guide, bottom of p. 4/top of p. 5:
A fraudulent jumpseat rider is an individual who attempts to gain access to the aircraft by intentional deception, such as through use of counterfeit IDs, inadequate or nonexistent medical certificates, or after dismissal by an employer; these acts constitute fraudulent representation. Off-line jumpseat rider abuse includes, but is not limited to, individuals who occupy a jumpseat at their company’s request (or on a ticket) and for reasons other than commuting to or from work or on personal travel. In addition to denying access to the jumpseat, you should immediately report suspected or known instances of jumpseat fraud to your MEC Security chair or coordinator, as appropriate. You should report jumpseat abuse to the MEC Jumpseat chair as soon as practical.

Link: http://www.jumpseatinfo.org/LinkClic...=1283&mid=3170

I bolded the relevant portion of the paragraph, but posted the entire paragraph for context.

As far as I know, a valid medical is required for a pilot to jumpseat. Again, if someone's got information to the contrary for pilots, feel free to correct me.

Edit: I went to the FOM. There's a table on 10.60.1 that includes required documents. It lists a bunch of categories including mechanic and executive.
Personal note: When I was out on LTD, I had to turn in my company ID so it would have been impossible to jumpseat. And they remove you from CASS while out on LTD so even if you kept your ID, you wouldn't get past the gate agent's CASS search (online or offline).

rp2pilot

A little off topic, but anybody that lives in California but flies out of another state / home base is probably eligible for mental health benefits

rp2pilot

Jumpseating is also known as OMC, Observer Member of the Crew. If you are not healthy enough to work your own trip, I'd guess your not healthy enough to be a member of someone else's crew. I realize that California Sick is a different beast as has been noted in prior posts.

baseball

I agree.

Also, if you are ill, please stay home. I don't need any more germs than those my kids share with me. I also don't want to bring your illness into my home because you got intimidated into flying sick by some stupid CCS memo.

baseball

What is California sick?

svergin

Its when you look outside and its a nice day, and you've got some tasty waves and a cool buzz. You call the crew desk and just say "Dude...." They respond with "We've got it. You're California sick"

Then you go grab your surfboard and hit the beach.

rp2pilot

It refers to a state law effective in 2015 that, among other things, mandates sick leave accrual and permits said sick leave to be used for caring for sick family members in addition to just using it for one's own illness.