Kirby wants bigger RJ's.
05-29-2017, 05:03 PM
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We told him to go *Marlin* himself here at AA when he floated that scope idea ... it quietly went away, then he did same.
Good riddance , and good luck UAL. He is a lover of all things RJ, but can't see the writing on the wall regarding RJ staffing .
joe
Good riddance , and good luck UAL. He is a lover of all things RJ, but can't see the writing on the wall regarding RJ staffing .
joe
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05-29-2017, 05:50 PM
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05-29-2017, 06:05 PM
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05-29-2017, 06:19 PM
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Now we start to see the real reason the 737-700 order was cancelled.
As long as >50% of a pilot group is within 10-15 years of retiring relaxation of scope is a plausible outcome of contract negotiation as folks try to make up financial losses during the lost decade/Great Recession.
As long as >50% of a pilot group is within 10-15 years of retiring relaxation of scope is a plausible outcome of contract negotiation as folks try to make up financial losses during the lost decade/Great Recession.
05-29-2017, 06:27 PM
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Now we start to see the real reason the 737-700 order was cancelled.
As long as >50% of a pilot group is within 10-15 years of retiring relaxation of scope is a plausible outcome of contract negotiation as folks try to make up financial losses during the lost decade/Great Recession.
As long as >50% of a pilot group is within 10-15 years of retiring relaxation of scope is a plausible outcome of contract negotiation as folks try to make up financial losses during the lost decade/Great Recession.
05-29-2017, 06:28 PM
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How does he think he will staff these RJ's?! the regionals cant even staff the planes now let alone adding more planes. This guy is delusional!! I wouldnt worry about it, the pilot shortage on the regional level is here. Expressjet has reserve CA's flying in the right seat all the time due to lack of FO's Mesa cant fill their classes for the 175's either...Regionals should just go away and make everything mainline. It would be a total disaster if scope got relaxed.
05-29-2017, 07:11 PM
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05-29-2017, 07:16 PM
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But because I flew those planes for over a decade on a different seniority list, I will enjoy only 5 years of top out pay at UAL - on whatever airframe my seniority holds - before I retire. Longevity matters. Big time. Pay rates for smaller planes are far less important than getting the pilots of those planes on our seniority list.
05-29-2017, 07:24 PM
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Nope. I'm talking about the relaxation in scope in 2000 while getting a big pay raise... no bankruptcy gun to the head. All of those RJs, minus mainline pilots, wound up in mainline colors somehow. It's not unique to UAL, pick a carrier. The saving grace might be that those who lived through the post-9/11 contraction still remember the furloughs and backwards movement exacerbated by the outsourced flying.
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