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Old 06-03-2017, 07:28 AM
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Skywest E190's. Perhaps, the same E190's, flown by subcontractors.
Hopefully they have places to put the current AA E190 pilots then.
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Hopefully they have places to put the current AA E190 pilots then.


AA scope wouldn't allow 190s at the regionals. Theres a 76 seat/86,000 pound weight limit. I think it's 86k.

There's only 250ish 190 pilots. With 15,000 pilots parking the 190s won't create much of a ripple.
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Originally Posted by Probe
Skywest E190's. Perhaps, the same E190's, flown by subcontractors.


AA scope won't allow that.
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF
AA scope wouldn't allow 190s at the regionals. Theres a 76 seat/86,000 pound weight limit. I think it's 86k.

There's only 250ish 190 pilots. With 15,000 pilots parking the 190s won't create much of a ripple.
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AA scope won't allow that.
Unless the scope gets changed

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Old 06-04-2017, 09:53 PM
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The whole 100 seat jet thing never seems to pan out. I don't think Air Canada or Jetblue are in love with their 190's, and now American. They didn't sell a huge number of E-190's.

I remember years ago (more than 10) reading an aviation article about 100 seaters. I said every time somebody buys 100 seaters, they are exactly the wrong size. Fokkers, the small DC-9's etc. The C-series isn't exactly setting the world on fire with massive orders. They spent so much money developing it, they can't afford to discount it to compete with Boeing and Airbus.

I think the new SNB's will be 319's or 737-700's. NEO's or Max's.
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The whole 100 seat jet thing never seems to pan out. I don't think Air Canada or Jetblue are in love with their 190's, and now American. They didn't sell a huge number of E-190's.

I remember years ago (more than 10) reading an aviation article about 100 seaters. I said every time somebody buys 100 seaters, they are exactly the wrong size. Fokkers, the small DC-9's etc. The C-series isn't exactly setting the world on fire with massive orders. They spent so much money developing it, they can't afford to discount it to compete with Boeing and Airbus.

I think the new SNB's will be 319's or 737-700's. NEO's or Max's.
You make a good point about the 100 seat market. You also need to take into account that sales for the last five years have been stagnant beacuse of the new technology that was coming. It will be interesting over the long term to see if the GTF engines lower the CASM enough to entice more airlines to purchase them. Additionally based on the lack of sales for the 737-7 and 319neo, this might create a opportunity for the E195 e2 and cs300, or its just further proof that the economics favor the slightly larger and lower CASM of the 737-8/320neo.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Cost benefit analysis:

Dr Dao settlement and the media pounding that continues to take place. What did that cost us? I'll bet is was more than any savings we get by farming out to sub standard express carriers.
Probably true but the only problem with your theory is the ORD staff that ran the Dr Dao show were all mainline employees. Regional crew had zero to do with it.
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Old 06-05-2017, 08:42 AM
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Probably true but the only problem with your theory is the ORD staff that ran the Dr Dao show were all mainline employees. Regional crew had zero to do with it.
But did that stem from not having enough seats?
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Probably true but the only problem with your theory is the ORD staff that ran the Dr Dao show were all mainline employees. Regional crew had zero to do with it.
The only mainline employee invovled was the gate agent. Republic created the whole situation, and by Uniteds own report the dead head crew demanding boarding once boarding had been completed after their earlier flight had cancelled.
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This could've easily have happened on mainline if Dao was on a mainline flight instead of a regional. It's not like involuntary denied boardings never happen on mainline. The DH crew issue would've been the same if they showed up to a mainline flight as well.
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