Non-rev loads for LAX-HNL for OALs
06-02-2017, 05:54 PM
#21
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Ha, This is so true.
I've been non reving this route for well over 30 years.
I have often said; I don't understand how the islands are not empty at this point.
There are always more coming than going, what is that?
Rod Serling stuff I know.
Seriously, I would not try to go to Hi anytime during summer vacation.
Especially not with a child. Just a wife, maybe if she's the VERY patient and understanding kind.
But no, it's not a good idea.
I've been non reving this route for well over 30 years.
I have often said; I don't understand how the islands are not empty at this point.
There are always more coming than going, what is that?
Rod Serling stuff I know.
Seriously, I would not try to go to Hi anytime during summer vacation.
Especially not with a child. Just a wife, maybe if she's the VERY patient and understanding kind.
But no, it's not a good idea.
It makes sense, and explains why it's so often easy to get to the islands, but so hard to get back. The last time I went Kona to SFO, 3/4 of coach was filled with two large Japanese tour groups.
The explanation could easily be wrong, but it makes sense to me...
06-02-2017, 07:08 PM
#22
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I had a senior UA CA explain this conundrum to me. A very popular tour group route for Japanese tourists is to fly from Japan to Hawaii, spend time there, and then fly to the US. Then when they're done, they fly nonstop back to Japan.
It makes sense, and explains why it's so often easy to get to the islands, but so hard to get back. The last time I went Kona to SFO, 3/4 of coach was filled with two large Japanese tour groups.
The explanation could easily be wrong, but it makes sense to me...
It makes sense, and explains why it's so often easy to get to the islands, but so hard to get back. The last time I went Kona to SFO, 3/4 of coach was filled with two large Japanese tour groups.
The explanation could easily be wrong, but it makes sense to me...
There's a high percentage of Japanese tourists in HNL.
06-05-2017, 09:19 PM
#23
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If a plane on the mainland has a mechanical, chances are there is a spare, or a spare part, to get the flight airborne and headed to the islands. When a plane has a mechanical out in Hawaii, chances are higher that the flight will be canceled for the day. It doesn't matter if the flight is UAL, AMR, DAL , or any other airline: all those passengers from the canceled flight get rebooked on any available seat and soak up the excess inventory.
Just a theory, nothing more.
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