ugleeual

beauty of this job... when you get some seniority you can decide to work your butt off for pay or sit back and watch others do the work. Now that most WB lines are built in the 70s and low 80s every open trip is sucked up by WB FOs paying for their second marriages or college educations... pretty sweet. I'll be honest it's starting to get a little old sitting at home drinking beers and eating on my back deck... need to probably bid a line in July to get a bit of flying.

BobWiley

Love seeing the movement at delta and happy for my friends over there!

Just curious why is the movement is much slower here when we are retiring more pilots? Not that I'm complaining, The movement here has been more than I bargained for. Just trying to understand. Is it mostly due to acquiring the Airtran 717s?

ItnStln

Has American received their A350 yet?

rp2pilot

In the industry, good times come, good times go. Last in First Out.

aa73

No, and there is some debate as to whether we will even ever get it. They keep getting deferred. Some industry experts are claiming that it would be one too many fleet types for us and we may grab more 787s or even the 777-x instead.

flyboycpa

It really took some balls to make a comment like that.

ItnStln

Thanks for the reply! I was just wondering since you posted "DTW A350 FO is at 9 years 7 months" so is that pending the arrival of the A350 in which case said pilot will be an FO on the A350?

horrido27

Interesting and got to wonder why... love to know what their overall Seniority is within the company. Have also heard that the MD88 can be a handful. Could be a wild ride with a NewHire Capt and NewHire FO come December and Winter-LGA~

Good Question.
I'm at 75.7% overall Seniority and can NOT hold Capt anywhere in the system. (Nov 07 CAL Hire).
Expect I will be able to hold it within the next 6 months.. but unknown if it will be in EWR. Live Local so would NOT commute to bottom reserve on the smallest airplane we have!

Had I been hired at Delta back in '07, would have held Capt for a while now.. in base~

Guess Delta must have some awful reserve rules vs. lineholder rules for this to happen. If you're a Senior B (FO), do you bid mid to bottom Seniority Capt to make the same amount of money yet work harder?

I always thought that Captains would/should be in the 75ish%. But when you see a Captain at 99%, it has to make you wonder why?!

Yupe.. had we kept those 73's coming this year, we would probably have seen alot more Captain movement, though probably not at the Seniority Level of Delta. If we ever order a CS class aircraft here, we could see under 2 year Seniority Captains. Otherwise, I don't see it happening.

Maybe our Management team is doing two things-
1) Trying to unF*#K what Smallsack and the last team screwed up!~
2) Getting ready for the next downturn (which has already started).

Time will tell. But Congrats over at Delta. Seems we're a few years apart from them, still.

Always
Motch

webecheck

According to a DAL friend of mine, its not exactly how it appears at first glance. First, this an annual bid so the company has 12 months to activate. I guess the company gets 1 big bid per yr like this to help forecast, so in theory these awards may actually have another yr attached to it before its realized. Second, everyone hates the maddog and the FOs can apparently make almost just as much money with a drastically better schedule so they bypass the upgrade. Third, this amazing Capt movement is all below the g-line stuff on primarily the 88 and 717 and 99% of people do not want that house of pain, hence the opportunity to go so junior. Your overall company seniority to become a lineholder Capt on a 737 or better jet is fairly inline with ours, and the top paying WB FO stuff is attainable earlier at UAL than DAL.

If we would just place a damn CS order we'd have 1 or 2 yr Capts as well. I had a Delta class offer last yr, guess I could be a Capt already. hmmm. FWIW, my friend bypassed a Capt opportunity, in base on same equipment he already flies, because he wants to wait for that best QoL WB gig. UAL has some advantages.

svergin

I wouldn't want to go back to the old system, having to guess a year in advance where things may turn out. I like the monthly bidding, even if some bids are small.

Plus the snapshot is out and its 2 full pages, including backfills in over a dozen Categories, so I wouldn't poo-poo this "small bid". Its substantial for us junior people.